Canada Post Admits Two-Bundle Delivery Method is Dangerous

Post by **POSTMAN** » 26 Sep 2017, 22:49

For reference and see an old thread in competitors forum...

https://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communi ... 3&p=783568" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Canada Post Admits Two-Bundle
Delivery Method is Dangerous

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 27 Sep 2017, 15:43

Well this is Royal Mails strategy unfolding before their eyes this is what they want postmen/women juggling mail in the street by pulling it out of a ten pocket vest well if it's dangerous for Canada post why should it not be dangerous for us all!

wannabeek · Post by **wannabeek** » 27 Sep 2017, 15:54

Eugh. I'm just imagining wearing some honky garment used by some of my colleagues. That's a H&S risk before you even get out on delivery!

Dorset Plodder · Post by **Dorset Plodder** » 27 Sep 2017, 16:24

We've tried something similar... NOT OFFICIALLY.... We used to bundle up and get out on delivery, then when the last wave arrived the driver used to nip back to the Office and bring the mech sorted bundles out. He'd split them to match the Replenishment Drops that this particular Duty used.

It was still a pain in the arse as the mech is NEVER 100% correct as per Delivery, and often while you were working with one bundle you'd forget you had mail for that address in the second bundle and you'd forget to deliver it!

I believe ANY Experienced Postie could tell them this idea is a non starter but I'm sure Royal Mail will continue to try and hammer this particular square peg into a round hole, in the hope they can make some savings.

Post by **Brandy** » 27 Sep 2017, 16:41

I have never known a company chop and change working methods like RM do without thinking what the ramifications will be.What a shambles they are just trying to save a bit of money here and there!!

rubberbond · Post by **rubberbond** » 27 Sep 2017, 17:22

Brandy wrote:I have never known a company chop and change working methods like RM do without thinking what the ramifications will be.What a shambles they are just trying to save a bit of money here and there!!

Quite. It's such a simple process made complicated, by too many layers of management. How the hell its survived 500 years is a miracle,especially the last decade with the current chief executive and her nonsensical ideas.

Post by **SpacePhoenix** » 27 Sep 2017, 19:37

Dorset Plodder wrote:It was still a pain in the arse as the mech is NEVER 100% correct as per Delivery, and often while you were working with one bundle you'd forget you had mail for that address in the second bundle and you'd forget to deliver it!

It never will be, if your walk is on a busy batch, chances are that we'll have to split the workload in two and run it is two separate lots. With the waiting till 95% is avaiable thing that RM want to bring in, it'll happen way more often that there'll be too much mail to run it all in one hit

Jimbo2017 · Post by **Jimbo2017** » 27 Sep 2017, 20:09

Jesus Christ.... That's nuts.

Dorset Plodder · Post by **Dorset Plodder** » 28 Sep 2017, 15:00

SpacePhoenix wrote:
Dorset Plodder wrote:It was still a pain in the arse as the mech is NEVER 100% correct as per Delivery, and often while you were working with one bundle you'd forget you had mail for that address in the second bundle and you'd forget to deliver it!
It never will be, if your walk is on a busy batch, chances are that we'll have to split the workload in two and run it is two separate lots. With the waiting till 95% is avaiable thing that RM want to bring in, it'll happen way more often that there'll be too much mail to run it all in one hit

Not having a Dig at the Processing Staff SP. A lot of Posties "Move" the Delivery phase around to make life easier, sometimes there's a few new builds and they're not added to the A Plus. I've changed the Delivery around and asked for the A Plus to be updated (even filled out the reams of paper they asked for) but keep getting told they haven't got the time to release someone to input it.

As usual I'm quite happy to play by RMs Rules & Procedures.... it's just that RM choice to ignore them when it suits them.

TheTrolleyMan · Post by **TheTrolleyMan** » 28 Sep 2017, 19:47

POSTMAN wrote:For reference and see an old thread in competitors forum...

https://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communi ... 3&p=783568" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Canada Post Admits Two-Bundle
Delivery Method is Dangerous

So is delivering in the dark but RM don't give a toss about that either

postslippete · Post by **postslippete** » 28 Sep 2017, 20:37

What is the biggest accidents that happen in Royal Mail. Can you guess??

Yes, its slips and trips

Reading the address on the letter whilst walking, not looking where you are going. Try doing it in the dark with multiple bundles plus trying to type in a customers name on your PDA for a packet, and you can reasonably multiply the number of accidents that are going to happen. Honestly, RM as a responsible employer have to put the health & safety of its colleagues first, so it should be a total non-starter. The company should not even be considering it at all.

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 29 Sep 2017, 15:07

How do you see a black dog in a garden in the dark can see the headline now postman/woman eaten alive by four dobermans yeah good call RM with this pushing the pipeline back with this stunt of shipping us all out as late as possible with unsorted mail.

Post by **SpacePhoenix** » 29 Sep 2017, 19:29

Dorset Plodder wrote:
SpacePhoenix wrote:
Dorset Plodder wrote:It was still a pain in the arse as the mech is NEVER 100% correct as per Delivery, and often while you were working with one bundle you'd forget you had mail for that address in the second bundle and you'd forget to deliver it!
It never will be, if your walk is on a busy batch, chances are that we'll have to split the workload in two and run it is two separate lots. With the waiting till 95% is avaiable thing that RM want to bring in, it'll happen way more often that there'll be too much mail to run it all in one hit
Not having a Dig at the Processing Staff SP. A lot of Posties "Move" the Delivery phase around to make life easier, sometimes there's a few new builds and they're not added to the A Plus. I've changed the Delivery around and asked for the A Plus to be updated (even filled out the reams of paper they asked for) but keep getting told they haven't got the time to release someone to input it. As usual I'm quite happy to play by RMs Rules & Procedures.... it's just that RM choice to ignore them when it suits them.

How much time would you save per day if the A+ was updated?

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 29 Sep 2017, 20:50

SpacePhoenix wrote:
Dorset Plodder wrote:
SpacePhoenix wrote:
Dorset Plodder wrote:It was still a pain in the arse as the mech is NEVER 100% correct as per Delivery, and often while you were working with one bundle you'd forget you had mail for that address in the second bundle and you'd forget to deliver it!
It never will be, if your walk is on a busy batch, chances are that we'll have to split the workload in two and run it is two separate lots. With the waiting till 95% is avaiable thing that RM want to bring in, it'll happen way more often that there'll be too much mail to run it all in one hit
Not having a Dig at the Processing Staff SP. A lot of Posties "Move" the Delivery phase around to make life easier, sometimes there's a few new builds and they're not added to the A Plus. I've changed the Delivery around and asked for the A Plus to be updated (even filled out the reams of paper they asked for) but keep getting told they haven't got the time to release someone to input it. As usual I'm quite happy to play by RMs Rules & Procedures.... it's just that RM choice to ignore them when it suits them.
How much time would you save per day if the A+ was updated?

It would make him/her out longer on delivery so be selective with your own information you give RM for your own sake!

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 30 Sep 2017, 15:13

SpacePhoenix wrote:How much time would you save per day if the A+ was updated?

An experienced postie on a duty he does daily - a few seconds

A Day Cover on rotation - maybe 5 seconds.

An experienced reserve - 10 seconds

An experienced OPG on the round for the first time - 30 seconds.

A new starter 1 -2 minutes.

Figures based on finding the slot on the frame and putting it in.