Cwu union release

rks · Post by **rks** » 14 Aug 2017, 07:29

Hello anyone know if manager can refuse union release or refuse to pay for time if one's duty is on their duty day off ?
Or is the union supposed to fund this please ?
Thanks

superdazzy · Post by **superdazzy** » 20 Aug 2017, 19:36

Good point, I have a Reps meeting schelduled for this Friday but its my day off. The Dom has refused to swap my day off but my branch has told me they would still expect me to attend??

Destiny · Post by **Destiny** » 20 Aug 2017, 19:40

RM pay you as normal then they claim it back of Union.

rks · Post by **rks** » 24 Aug 2017, 08:20

Destiny wrote:RM pay you as normal then they claim it back of Union.

Hello thanks for your reply , would you have these details to hand some where , where can i quote this from please as my
Manager is reluctant to allow me to attend and claim hours or even claim time off in lieu ?
Thanks

clashcityrocker · Post by **clashcityrocker** » 24 Aug 2017, 10:08

Just get your Area rep or Branch Secretary to talk to him.

Destiny · Post by **Destiny** » 24 Aug 2017, 11:54

He is just mugging you off, knows full well how it works!
It's in them IR framework agreement if he wants it in writing.

xray3 · Post by **xray3** » 25 Aug 2017, 09:01

Our Rep had same issues so reported problem of release for official union business to Branch.
DOM backed down after IR agreement chapter and verse quoted at him in writing by our Rep then.
Like previous post the DOM and DSM's know our rules but try to ignore them until challenged.

rks · Post by **rks** » 11 Sep 2017, 10:46

Hello I have received a response from my manager quoting the following from HR :
here are two types of union leave, paid and unpaid:

● Paid leave - to carry out joint industrial relations work, and attend approved training courses
● Unpaid leave - to undertake activities related to the organisation of the union

Employees should also normally submit a leave request two weeks in advance.

I’d advise if it was to undertake normal activities it would be taken as unpaid. If it is classed as approved paid leave then he should be able to reclaim the Toil for the time taken or be paid at his normal pay rate.

Manager has indicated its unpaid leave . Is this correct ?
if it is then I cannot believe all local reps attend these meetings without pay ?
anyone enlighten on this please thanks .

jetblack · Post by **jetblack** » 11 Sep 2017, 17:41

rks wrote: Manager has indicated its unpaid leave . Is this correct ?
if it is then I cannot believe all local reps attend these meetings without pay ?

They don't. If its 'Paid Leave' RM foot the bill. If its 'Unpaid Leave' the union foot the bill and reimburse RM (who pay you as normal)

Creditshampoo · Post by **Creditshampoo** » 12 Sep 2017, 20:59

jetblack wrote:
rks wrote: Manager has indicated its unpaid leave . Is this correct ?
if it is then I cannot believe all local reps attend these meetings without pay ?
They don't. If its 'Paid Leave' RM foot the bill. If its 'Unpaid Leave' the union foot the bill and reimburse RM (who pay you as normal)

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