2017!Pay Offer

TheTrolleyMan · Post by **TheTrolleyMan** » 27 Jun 2017, 20:39

2017 Pay / Conditions / Pension Offer , Isn't it about time the CWU actually told us the offer that RM has made ? After all is it not called the " Communication " Workers Union ?

worktotime · Post by **worktotime** » 27 Jun 2017, 21:25

no pay offer because where all overpaid ask herpes and yodel , no pensions because the pot is nearly dry , s**t terms and conditions and that's about it , oh save save and save so Moya and the boys above can take more bonuses and big pay rises, so you want to be thankful you've got a job , lol

Jonesy 1971 · Post by **Jonesy 1971** » 27 Jun 2017, 21:43

......... and don't forget, also have time to be a director at squeezey jet to supplement the 500k pay rise!

Post by **Jack1960** » 28 Jun 2017, 12:11

It's supposed to be a conditional 250 pounds lump sum

scoobymunster · Post by **scoobymunster** » 28 Jun 2017, 12:54

Jack1960 wrote:It's supposed to be a conditional 250 pounds lump sum

Pro rata I hope

walkthewalk · Post by **walkthewalk** » 28 Jun 2017, 18:53

Anybody expecting a pay rise will be of course disappointed- sorry to break the news

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 28 Jun 2017, 19:13

35 hour week is what the union want I say 32 hour week without loss of pay over 4 years is what we need!

worktotime · Post by **worktotime** » 28 Jun 2017, 20:03

walkthewalk wrote:Anybody expecting a pay rise will be of course disappointed- sorry to break the news

not interested in a pay rise , just want a manageable workload and stop being treated like a c*** by the dims , doms whatever they call themselves , to put it blunt.

The Postman · Post by **The Postman** » 28 Jun 2017, 20:15

Jack1960 wrote:It's supposed to be a conditional 250 pounds lump sum

£250 lump sum pro rats works out at 12.3p an hour rise which is 1.116%. Is it really that difficult to cough up another 3.6p to give us a 1.5% rise?

worktotime · Post by **worktotime** » 28 Jun 2017, 20:53

well don't you think the cwu should be sending whatever offer r/m have made out to the members and the all the s**t that goes with it and not just the proposals that r/m expect which we all know is bullshit , is it not the best way instead of treating members like mushrooms ? kept in the dark and fed on s**t , mind u weve got till August till we get told and the ballot forms are out . a silent union isn't good .

Martin Walsh · Post by **Martin Walsh** » 28 Jun 2017, 21:16

Mike Newbys letter which is on this site made it clear the Pay Offer is conditional on the following :

Us accepting their Pension proposal.

Us accepting trials on delivery based on start times 2 hours later , the multi bundle option , team working and seasonal viarations with no cut offs.

Also we would have to accept all legacy payments going , monthly pay , sick leave not being paid for first 3 days , VR payments reduced and changed to the IR framework. additionally every unit would have to increase their Weighted Items per Gross hour by a minuimn of 3% each of the 3 years.

Only than will they give you a one off non pensionable lump sum of £250 pro rata with a 30 minute reduction in the working week in the 3rd quarter of the year.

In year 2 providing every office has improved their office by 3% on Weighted items per Gross hour which basically is reducing the hours your office costs than you get 50% of that improvement in a pay rise i.e. 1.5%. Oh you also have to deploy what has been agreed in the Delivery trials.

Year 3 is the same.

Now if you want the union to waste time putting that out to a ballot of the members then I dispair as anyone who would accept that should not be in the union. In terms of Comms well I have seen lots of comms and all unit Reps are getting an update so they can hold gate meetings.

Now as someone who has been on strike a lot during the summer it is a lot better and hurts Royal Mail more when the traffic kicks back in around September hence why the strategy is too ballot if we have not got an agreement during August.

worktotime · Post by **worktotime** » 28 Jun 2017, 21:27

dingo wrote:Mike Newbys letter which is on this site made it clear the Pay Offer is conditional on the following :

Us accepting their Pension proposal.

Us accepting trials on delivery based on start times 2 hours later , the multi bundle option , team working and seasonal viarations with no cut offs.

Also we would have to accept all legacy payments going , monthly pay , sick leave not being paid for first 3 days , VR payments reduced and changed to the IR framework. additionally every unit would have to increase their Weighted Items per Gross hour by a minuimn of 3% each of the 3 years.

Only than will they give you a one off non pensionable lump sum of £250 pro rata with a 30 minute reduction in the working week in the 3rd quarter of the year.

In year 2 providing every office has improved their office by 3% on Weighted items per Gross hour which basically is reducing the hours your office costs than you get 50% of that improvement in a pay rise i.e. 1.5%. Oh you also have to deploy what has been agreed in the Delivery trials.

Year 3 is the same.

Now if you want the union to waste time putting that out to a ballot of the members then I dispair as anyone who would accept that should not be in the union. In terms of Comms well I have seen lots of comms and all unit Reps are getting an update so they can hold gate meetings.

Now as someone who has been on strike a lot during the summer it is a lot better and hurts Royal Mail more when the traffic kicks back in around September hence why the strategy is too ballot if we have not got an agreement during August.

I'm not saying members would agree to this crap , but why hasn't the cwu been sending this out to members ? because this is the most I heard since any talks have taken place , and some members don't come on here to find stuff out because the office reps don't say nowt or even they don't know. that's what I'm saying . r/m are fast to throw they shite out asap to try and convince people .

Spedley · Post by **Spedley** » 28 Jun 2017, 21:34

If that's the terms then "no pay rise is the best pay rise".

worktotime · Post by **worktotime** » 28 Jun 2017, 21:45

Spedley wrote:If that's the terms then "no pay rise is the best pay rise".

to right they can shove the golden carrot where the sun doesn't shine.

Post by **aiden01** » 28 Jun 2017, 23:22

worktotime wrote:
dingo wrote:Mike Newbys letter which is on this site made it clear the Pay Offer is conditional on the following :

Us accepting their Pension proposal.

Us accepting trials on delivery based on start times 2 hours later , the multi bundle option , team working and seasonal viarations with no cut offs.

Also we would have to accept all legacy payments going , monthly pay , sick leave not being paid for first 3 days , VR payments reduced and changed to the IR framework. additionally every unit would have to increase their Weighted Items per Gross hour by a minuimn of 3% each of the 3 years.

Only than will they give you a one off non pensionable lump sum of £250 pro rata with a 30 minute reduction in the working week in the 3rd quarter of the year.

In year 2 providing every office has improved their office by 3% on Weighted items per Gross hour which basically is reducing the hours your office costs than you get 50% of that improvement in a pay rise i.e. 1.5%. Oh you also have to deploy what has been agreed in the Delivery trials.

Year 3 is the same.

Now if you want the union to waste time putting that out to a ballot of the members then I dispair as anyone who would accept that should not be in the union. In terms of Comms well I have seen lots of comms and all unit Reps are getting an update so they can hold gate meetings.

Now as someone who has been on strike a lot during the summer it is a lot better and hurts Royal Mail more when the traffic kicks back in around September hence why the strategy is too ballot if we have not got an agreement during August.
I'm not saying members would agree to this crap , but why hasn't the cwu been sending this out to members ? because this is the most I heard since any talks have taken place , and some members don't come on here to find stuff out because the office reps don't say nowt or even they don't know. that's what I'm saying . r/m are fast to throw they shite out asap to try and convince people .

in my opinion this is only place you hear anything reps in our mc either know nothing or hear nothing glad to be on this forum at least you are kept up to date almost daily what,s going on.