Standing down mail to lapse

Lee246 · Post by **Lee246** » 30 Apr 2017, 07:06

Does anyone else work in a sorting office were it is becoming normal procedure to stand down mail to make time for lapsing?

worktotime · Post by **worktotime** » 30 Apr 2017, 08:59

email Moya , that should stop it.

daveyeff · Post by **daveyeff** » 30 Apr 2017, 13:22

its a total contradiction in itself. lapsing is to be done if you do not have enough work to take you to your finishing time. if you are having to stand down mail to achieve lapsing then you have enough mail to take you to your finishing time in which case you do not lapse. union shouldn't be allowing it to happen anyway.

daveyeff · Post by **daveyeff** » 30 Apr 2017, 13:25

standing down mail is surely wilful delay unless there is a good enough reason. and lapsing is not a good enough reason. needs to be investigated.

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 30 Apr 2017, 14:56

Report it to the Area Delivery Rep.

This email still stands despite the date:

Date: Friday, 5 November, 2010, 17:24

Dear Colleagues,

During the recent ADR briefings the subject of ‘Streaming or Skimming’ of mail was raised by a number of reps and subsequently raised by me at the NDG. Royal Mail’s response was that they were unaware of it and it was only anecdotal, they needed firmer ‘evidence’. Therefore could reps please supply the dept via email with any instances where this has occurred or is occurring, naming the office and the manager of the office and how frequently this has occurred, and how the streaming actually occurs. In some cases the decision of what not to deliver has been left to OPGs which in itself is unacceptable. In other instances it forms part of absorption/lapsing where an OPG is taken off a delivery to allow others to absorb the delivery by only delivering the 1c and leaving everything else in the frame.

Your urgent attention and response to this request would be greatly appreciated.

Please send your replies to bgibson@cwu.org no later than Thursday 11th November 2010. POSTMAN EDIT:IGNORE DATES:KEEP SENDING!

Thanks

Bob Gibson
CWU Assistant Secretary - Outdoor

Outdoor Postal Dept
CWU HQ
150 The Broadway
Wimbledon
London SW19 1RX
Tel: 0208 971 7276
Fax: 0208 254 8577
CWU Website: http://www.cwu.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

worktotime · Post by **worktotime** » 30 Apr 2017, 15:55

ranger1 wrote:
worktotime wrote:email Moya , that should stop it.
Emailing moya wont do s**t...... its her idea to lapse as a must....

no it isn't that's down to your dom not having the balls to tell his dsm he cant do it , believe me it will

, they take standing mail down very serious , they wouldn't want offcom or the dsa companies to find out as its wilful delay on a massive scale.

chickenwittle · Post by **chickenwittle** » 30 Apr 2017, 17:24

Oh please , like Moyà gives a s**t

plaguelift · Post by **plaguelift** » 30 Apr 2017, 19:24

Lee246 wrote:Does anyone else work in a sorting office were it is becoming normal procedure to stand down mail to make time for lapsing?

Yes. It's happening in our office all the time.

worktotime · Post by **worktotime** » 30 Apr 2017, 20:09

chickenwittle wrote:Oh please , like Moyà gives a s**t

they do and I know from experience and also inform the cwu as well that this is going on as well , if you don't do nowt they will just carry on ,

Redcollar · Post by **Redcollar** » 30 Apr 2017, 21:20

What does it mean to "stand down mail"?

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 30 Apr 2017, 21:32

Redcollar wrote:What does it mean to "stand down mail"?

AKA Streaming, Riddling etc, basically being instructed by management to either deliver certain mail streams only or not deliver as appropriate.

Zicomurphy · Post by **Zicomurphy** » 30 Apr 2017, 22:59

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
Redcollar wrote:What does it mean to "stand down mail"?
AKA Streaming, Riddling etc, basically being instructed by management to either deliver certain mail streams only or not deliver as appropriate.

Isn't that exactly what they want to bring in with these new proposals, only delivering first class on certain days? If it's helping save them money I doubt anyone in upper management could care less.

Post by **britwrit** » 01 May 2017, 16:11

I thought so too. But I went to the Royal Mail site. The USO covers....

The Postal Services Act 2011 sets out the minimum requirements the Universal Service provider must deliver. These are statutory. They can only be altered with the consent of the UK Parliament. The minimum requirements are:
At least one delivery of letters every Monday to Saturday to every address in the UK
At least one collection of letters every Monday to Saturday from every access point in the UK that is used to receive letters and postal packets for onward transmission
Postal services at an affordable, uniform tariff across the UK
A registered items service at an affordable public tariff
An insured items service at an affordable public tariff
A free-of-charge postal service to blind or partially sighted people
Free carriage of legislative petitions and addresses
Postal Packets ≤20kg

So - just based on that and my wild guess, I'm not a lawyer, don't sue me - there's some stuff that doesn't have to be delivered every day. That is, what the Royal Mail might be thinking. I'm thinking magazines and catalogs.

clashcityrocker · Post by **clashcityrocker** » 02 May 2017, 16:22

Why do the blind or partially sighted get a free postal service?

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 02 May 2017, 17:02

clashcityrocker wrote:Why do the blind or partially sighted get a free postal service?

You have got to put yourself in their situation if I had no legs a taxi would help as someone who is blind listening to books would give them access to everything you take for granted as someone who can read just give them the time of day!