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Hypothetical question.
If a customer had on their window a rather legally worded letter indicating "Removal Of Implied Access", how would that impact on us delivering mail?
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greengiant wrote:Hypothetical question.
If a customer had on their window a rather legally worded letter indicating "Removal Of Implied Access", how would that impact on us delivering mail?
Do not read it.
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I think this is mainly about debtors and bailiffs but proper legal advice on this would be useful. :cuppa
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So applicable to bailifs, but what about post people delivering mail? Use a very long posting peg to post through an open letterbox without setting foot on property? :hmmmm
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Post by Gazza47 »

greengiant wrote:
So applicable to bailifs, but what about post people delivering mail? Use a very long posting peg to post through an open letterbox without setting foot on property? :hmmmm

Don't worry about it, sounds like someone trying to waste people's time and money and may be in debt, to make this legal it needs to be sent ( officially ) to the person they don't want entering their property or land. In a nut shell if you don't want tv licence detectors knocking on your door you send them a similar letter barring them from doing so.

Makes no sense as they then just get a warrant and boot your door in, bailiffs don't have right of access again unless they have a warrant or court order then they can enter whilst the uninformed person shouts common law human rights when in reality they don't have a clue.
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Basically they probably don't have a tv licence.
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Post by CPTNemoUK »

Just giving it a read and came across this thought it's a bit random and made me laugh.

Vaughan v McKenzie [1969] 1 QB 557 if the debtor strikes the bailiff over the head with a full milk bottle after making a forced entry, the debtor is not guilty of assault because the bailiff was there illegally, likewise R. v Tucker at Hove Trial Centre Crown Court, December 2012 if the debtor gives the bailiff a good slap.
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TAKE YOUR SPECS OFF AND SAY YOU DIDN'T SEE IT
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greengiant wrote:Hypothetical question.
If a customer had on their window a rather legally worded letter indicating "Removal Of Implied Access", how would that impact on us delivering mail?
None.

The removal of implied right of access has to be sent to the authority/ies concerned. So a note on the door is useless as you have to pass on to his land to read it, therefore they have provided reasonable excuse to enter their property. :left: :left:

However, the can withdraw the Implied right of access if they want, but they will then either have to provide a place to leave their mail on the boundary of their property or collect it from the office.

If they follow the correct procedure Royal Mail and/or the postie can be prosecuted in a Civil Court for damages if they ignore the removal. This may end up as a CCJ if not paid within 28 days.

Hopefully, I've got the basics right.
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Post by Chewster »

If it were me I'd advise them that I won't be delivering their mail anymore seeing as they're obviously so keen to keep people out