Wallington week

[swashy]

Postman on 6 day wally week is absent due to sickness for 7 days. upon his return his manager says he has to repay a day on his next rota wally week. Is this correct?

[fishtank]

No.
Does someone on the day off scheme have to "repay" their day off?

[arnold cheshire]

Something tells me this Wallington week is a scam for posties by using 6 days leave for a week off annual leave . Over 6 weeks both posties on a Wallington and a rotating day off work 30 days so why do Wallington workers really need to use 6 days for a weeks annual leave?

[fishtank]

It's not rocket science.
They work 6 days, they need to take 6 days holidays to have a full week off, otherwise they would be having that extra day off twice, once during the annual leave week then again during their rotating week off.

[feduppostie]

technically yes it is correct - a wallington you work hours for no pay to 'bank them' and take them at a later time ( ie all at once on the 'week off')

it is in the terms that if you are sick your next week off will be reduced by the amount that was not banked

It's not really fair to expect a full week off if you have only banked ( ie worked for free) 4/5ths of that time when other have worked the full amount - the week off is not free it is banked hours being used- if you haven't worked them they are not there to be taken

so yes the manager in this instance is correct - if you had 5 weeks on the sick would you still expect a week off that everyone else had worked and banked yet you had nothing to earn?

[daveyeff]

mmmmnn

[fishtank]

technically yes it is correct - a wallington you work hours for no pay to 'bank them' and take them at a later time ( ie all at once on the 'week off')

it is in the terms that if you are sick your next week off will be reduced by the amount that was not banked

It's not really fair to expect a full week off if you have only banked ( ie worked for free) 4/5ths of that time when other have worked the full amount - the week off is not free it is banked hours being used- if you haven't worked them they are not there to be taken

so yes the manager in this instance is correct - if you had 5 weeks on the sick would you still expect a week off that everyone else had worked and banked yet you had nothing to earn?

None of the above is true.

[fishtank]

From the actual agreement.....


Sickness
Periods of absence are reckoned as for any other attendance pattern, with each
working day lost to sickness counting towards the spell of absence, together with
any rest days in the middle (but not before the first day or after the last day) of
the sickness.
For lengthy absences the sick pay rules reckon absences in weeks, based on the
length of time that has elapsed since the first working day lost to absence.

There is no need for any adjustment to attendances because of working days lost
to sickness. Obviously there is also no need for recording any sickness on days
off during the sixth ‘off’ week (which is equivalent to sickness at a weekend for
someone who works a Monday to Friday job), if no working days are affected.

[daveyeff]

thanks for the clear up fish.

[daveyeff]

if you work Monday to Friday and were absent on these days, they cant stop you being off on your regular days off which in this case would be Saturday and Sunday.

[A2B]

From the actual agreement.....


Sickness
Periods of absence are reckoned as for any other attendance pattern, with each
working day lost to sickness counting towards the spell of absence, together with
any rest days in the middle (but not before the first day or after the last day) of
the sickness.
For lengthy absences the sick pay rules reckon absences in weeks, based on the
length of time that has elapsed since the first working day lost to absence.

There is no need for any adjustment to attendances because of working days lost
to sickness. Obviously there is also no need for recording any sickness on days
off during the sixth ‘off’ week (which is equivalent to sickness at a weekend for
someone who works a Monday to Friday job), if no working days are affected.

Have you a link to the agreement please? I know somebody who was told by the area rep he had to work part of his rest week

[Alfreton]

I'd also like a copy of the agreement. This has been tried at our place. I disagreed and was told if we don't adhere then we will revert back to rotating days off

[fishtank]

5over6.pdf

[daveyeff]

a 'rogue' manager(and there are plenty of them in RM) will just say that agreement has been either overturned/superceded etc as it is dated 2006. if they do, ask them to produce the updated agreement. .... there isn't one...they'll be lying.

[ewancurze]

We are all told if we are sick for a week then we lose our rest week or a part thereof, depending at what point you are in your 5 weeks "on".