Time to leave

indurain · Post by **indurain** » 20 Jan 2017, 19:58

After nearly 3 years I've decided I've had enough of royal mail and I'm hopefully starting a new job in the next few weeks.
Sick of being a 2nd class citizen as a 'part timer' , every Tuesday off, only consecutive days off about twice in the last year, getting moved all over the place with no notice during 'summer time' working, less holidays than full timers regardless of how much overtime I do etc etc.

The last 18 months or so have been better as I've been at a different office doing rurals about half the time. The first year or so was a joke, supposed to be based at an office about 10 miles away but never saw it once, every day at an office 45 mins away doing the longest round there, staying on Saturdays to prep d2d's for the following week after all the full timers had gone home (there were about 200 more on my round than any others there, obviously I only got paid half as much for delivering these ).

I think the only reason I stuck it out at first was the thought I might get my own easy round one day. The trouble is now things are a little easier in respect to the actual delivery - most of the time, i'm still treated like s**t as a part timer and only now I've realised mostly through this forum how much I was shafted to begin with it just makes me resent the job and royal mail.

My notice period is 4 weeks I might tell my manager i'm happy to work a week or so, or I might just walk out.

Good luck everyone

datasaint · Post by **datasaint** » 20 Jan 2017, 20:15

What's your new job?

Btw, D2D money (delivery supplement) is incorporated into PTers OT rate up until 39 hours, it's called SSPR, so you didn't lose out there.

indurain · Post by **indurain** » 20 Jan 2017, 20:31

It's mostly till work with a bit of bar work and prepping/cooking etc at a holiday place. Like I said not been officially offered it yet, But I really am ready to leave anyway. Have an interview at another place Monday.

doorstepped · Post by **doorstepped** » 20 Jan 2017, 20:44

4 Weeks Notice?!

you get paid weekly so only have to give a weeks notice, was it your DOM who told you otherwise?

indurain · Post by **indurain** » 20 Jan 2017, 20:46

My first contract was a week I checked my newest one from 2015 tonight it says 4 weeks.
Seems they slipped that in to a lot of new contracts reading similar recent posts.

doorstepped · Post by **doorstepped** » 20 Jan 2017, 20:49

you still get paid weekly though?

and you get paid for the week your are working, not a week in hand.

get the other job, work out that week and just either go sick or just not turn up.

don't let them hold you to ransom over the 4 week notice.

whats the worse that can happen if you don't go in on a Monday? they sack you ;)

indurain · Post by **indurain** » 20 Jan 2017, 20:58

I get paid a week in hand so

Creditshampoo · Post by **Creditshampoo** » 20 Jan 2017, 21:06

indurain wrote:I get paid a week in hand so

Overtime is paid a week in hand. Contract pay is paid for that week.

Dorset Plodder · Post by **Dorset Plodder** » 21 Jan 2017, 17:06

Unfortunately a lot of New Posties learn the hard way, and because they're eager to please, and create a good impression, the DOMs always take advantage.

Good Luck in your new job.

walkthewalk · Post by **walkthewalk** » 21 Jan 2017, 20:59

indurain wrote:After nearly 3 years I've decided I've had enough of royal mail and I'm hopefully starting a new job in the next few weeks.
Sick of being a 2nd class citizen as a 'part timer' , every Tuesday off, only consecutive days off about twice in the last year, getting moved all over the place with no notice during 'summer time' working, less holidays than full timers regardless of how much overtime I do etc etc.

The last 18 months or so have been better as I've been at a different office doing rurals about half the time. The first year or so was a joke, supposed to be based at an office about 10 miles away but never saw it once, every day at an office 45 mins away doing the longest round there, staying on Saturdays to prep d2d's for the following week after all the full timers had gone home (there were about 200 more on my round than any others there, obviously I only got paid half as much for delivering these ).

I think the only reason I stuck it out at first was the thought I might get my own easy round one day. The trouble is now things are a little easier in respect to the actual delivery - most of the time, i'm still treated like s**t as a part timer and only now I've realised mostly through this forum how much I was shafted to begin with it just makes me resent the job and royal mail.

My notice period is 4 weeks I might tell my manager i'm happy to work a week or so, or I might just walk out.

Good luck everyone

How sad how very sad so I would like to say on my employers behalf good luck for the future, furthermore you are not the first and will be by no means the last to condemn our Moyà Green strict inhalation of Royal Mail staff. "Good Luck"

iHateD2Ds · Post by **iHateD2Ds** » 22 Jan 2017, 07:05

GOod Luck Buddy

WOrking for Royal Mail is a MInd Game the workplace is full of unfairness ,inequality and dick heads.

You where thrown in at the deep end and deserve a pat on the back ,many people would have walk out within two weeks!
Sounds like you are over the worse and should you end up staying, I would just try switching off, do your hours and go home.

In regards to your travelling time if RM employed you to work at an office nearer your home then you should get paid excess travelling time but this depends whats written on your contract when you accepted the offer.

Have a word with your union rep.

lightningpostman · Post by **lightningpostman** » 22 Jan 2017, 09:40

norm wrote:What's your new job?

Btw, D2D money (delivery supplement) is incorporated into PTers OT rate up until 39 hours, it's called SSPR, so you didn't lose out there.

yea so what , if the pt does no overtime and still does 5 days worth of d2d, they do not get a single penny but do the same amount of d2d's as a ft.

this needs to get changed as its a completely unfair system.

mbavelja · Post by **mbavelja** » 22 Jan 2017, 09:53

lightningpostman wrote:
norm wrote:What's your new job?

Btw, D2D money (delivery supplement) is incorporated into PTers OT rate up until 39 hours, it's called SSPR, so you didn't lose out there.
yea so what , if the pt does no overtime and still does 5 days worth of d2d, they do not get a single penny but do the same amount of d2d's as a ft.

this needs to get changed as its a completely unfair system.

Full time staff and part time staff get paid exactly the same amount for delivering D2D - precisely nothing.
There is no payment for delivering D2D.

Full time staff and part time staff get paid exactly the same hourly rate for receiving a delivery supplement.

NewPostieUK · Post by **NewPostieUK** » 22 Jan 2017, 11:58

indurain wrote: staying on Saturdays to prep d2d's for the following week after all the full timers had gone home

I think you've been your own worst enemy, sorry. There was no need to stay behind ever, if you didn't want the overtime.

If you went to an office 45 mins away, thats 1.5 hrs travelling everyday. If your contract was 5 hrs a day, that's THREE hrs a day you need to work (30 mins break).

I'd love that, love it!

Your notice is one week.

You have my sympathies, and I understand why you are so bitter, but I think you've been naive.

Good luck.

indurain · Post by **indurain** » 22 Jan 2017, 12:45

I would have to agree you for being naïve, but also I was never told until a year or so later you can claim travel time I was only ever told to claim mileage. When you're new how are you supposed to know when it's a small office and no one else is in the same situation or tells you?

Again, I was on the worst round but there were one or two posties there who would say thing like ' oh it's really not much harder than this round' etc.
How do you know when you're new and you've only done the one round?