grievence form.

Edward Hunter · Post by **Edward Hunter** » 12 Jan 2017, 19:30

Are they worthwhile? Any views, anybody got a positive result or are they always a whitewash.

Mobey · Post by **Mobey** » 12 Jan 2017, 20:03

I appreciate you've been on the site for 10 years, but be careful what you say on this thread about the grievance if it's yours.

sussexlad · Post by **sussexlad** » 12 Jan 2017, 20:11

Edward Hunter wrote:Are they worthwhile? Any views, anybody got a positive result or are they always a whitewash.

I think it depends if someone has a genuine grievence or they just use the process because they are hacked off because something hasn't gone their way. In 25 years i have never had to use process myself, prefer to sort things out with a cup of coffee, a grown up chat and some realistic expectations.

Edward Hunter · Post by **Edward Hunter** » 12 Jan 2017, 20:22

Mobey wrote:I appreciate you've been on the site for 10 years, but be careful what you say on this thread about the grievance if it's yours.

Sound advice mobey. ongoing situation mate. Nothing going on here at the moment lol

Post by **General Mannerheim** » 12 Jan 2017, 20:34

Absolute right load of bollocks.
The Bullying and Harassment procedure is even worse.
Corruption and falsifying documents is the norm.

barrychuckle · Post by **barrychuckle** » 13 Jan 2017, 09:53

General Mannerheim wrote:Absolute right load of bollocks.
The Bullying and Harassment procedure is even worse.
Corruption and falsifying documents is the norm.

Very, very true. Managers investigating managers just doesn't work.

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 13 Jan 2017, 12:32

Edward Hunter wrote:Are they worthwhile? Any views, anybody got a positive result or are they always a whitewash.

Depends, I put one in and won - but it was a slam dunk anyway as it was over BH payments.

Mobey · Post by **Mobey** » 13 Jan 2017, 20:30

Edward Hunter wrote:
Mobey wrote:I appreciate you've been on the site for 10 years, but be careful what you say on this thread about the grievance if it's yours.

Sound advice mobey. ongoing situation mate. Nothing going on here at the moment lol

No bother mate.

Hope you get the help and resolution you need.

Dorset Plodder · Post by **Dorset Plodder** » 15 Jan 2017, 16:33

I believe they're more useful if you're trying to establish a "Paper Trail" over some disagreement. The CWU will normally ask you,"Have you put a Grievance Form"? Don't forget to scan it or keep a photocopy.

Can't say I've had any great success with them, but I normally put one in if I'm owed overtime. You normally get more success simply by saying, "If you don't pay my outstanding overtime I'll be finishing bang on time and not doing any more overtime" Why Managers have to play these childish games is beyond me, they must realise certain Posties are NEVER going to let them get away with, so why keep trying it on?

DGH · Post by **DGH** » 15 Jan 2017, 19:01

Dorset Plodder wrote:
Can't say I've had any great success with them, but I normally put one in if I'm owed overtime. You normally get more success simply by saying, "If you don't pay my outstanding overtime I'll be finishing bang on time and not doing any more overtime"

Quite. They have to be convinced you actually mean it though.

In general I have found that the threat of a grievance being submitted, or one actually being submitted, is best used as a tool to open reasonable negotiations over whatever the problem is if a manager is being intransigent.