Xmas afternoon packets for reserves.

Post by **postiewhite** » 27 Nov 2016, 17:35

I have been asked to work ""SOME"" afternoons starting from this week right through til xmas basically because all regular duty holders will not be on holiday and there will be a surplus of staff, the hours would be starting from 12 oclock to maybe 7ish. Now although I don't have a big issue with this because it will only be for a month or so but I do have 2 or 3 upcoming commitments (actually one this week) which will unable me to work that late, I haven't a clue what the rota is for this week as they were not put up on Saturday but for example I have a commitment this friday from 3pm and i'm not sure if I will be rotared for a normal walking duty or an afternoon packet duty. Can they not make employees work afternoons? I can't locate my contract so I don't know what they can or cannot do but I was under the impression that they cannot make you work past my usualy 2.30pm finish time?

Post by **greengiant** » 27 Nov 2016, 20:24

Must be different up our way - we have reserves doing packet runs from 6:30am to 8:30am, then coming back to the office to do delivery walks.

Creditshampoo · Post by **Creditshampoo** » 27 Nov 2016, 20:41

greengiant wrote:Must be different up our way - we have reserves doing packet runs from 6:30am to 8:30am, then coming back to the office to do delivery walks.

Illegal to call before 7:30am according to police who turned us back to the office last Christmas eve

12rdave · Post by **12rdave** » 27 Nov 2016, 20:53

Contact your rep. Afternoon packet duties are purely voluntary, nobody can be made to do these duties.

shepherdess · Post by **shepherdess** » 27 Nov 2016, 21:42

Change of duty times need a month's notice

Shaders · Post by **Shaders** » 27 Nov 2016, 21:43

Illegal to call before 7:30am according to police who turned us back to the office last Christmas eve[/quote]

is it really? we start knocking at 7

wannabeek · Post by **wannabeek** » 27 Nov 2016, 22:09

It may be different in your contract so do find and check but I believe the standard phrase is that they need to give 'reasonable notice' if they require you to change your usual working hours.

As I understand it, if you have specific hours stated in your contract then it requires 90 days notice to change them.

If you don't have specific stated hours then I believe that 28 days notice is what is generally considered to be 'reasonable notice' when it is necessary to change your usual working pattern.

Having said that, my experience of this is with the law of the land outside of RM, but they are mostly a law unto themselves in this company!

enskied · Post by **enskied** » 28 Nov 2016, 04:53

As said it is voulntary. 90 days notice for a substantial change in contracted hours, not 30 days.

bigbazza · Post by **bigbazza** » 28 Nov 2016, 12:32

Creditshampoo wrote:
greengiant wrote:Must be different up our way - we have reserves doing packet runs from 6:30am to 8:30am, then coming back to the office to do delivery walks.
Illegal to call before 7:30am according to police who turned us back to the office last Christmas eve

LOL many years ago i remember delivering before 6.30am. Those were the day's.

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 28 Nov 2016, 13:28

As far as I know its down to local by laws, but generally "Night time hours" are counted as between 11pm and 7am.

The accepted threshold level for noise complaints between these hours is 34dba https://www.gov.uk/guidance/noise-nuisa ... complaints" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; which is between a whisper (20dba) and a Babbling Brook (40dba) http://www.noisehelp.com/noise-level-chart.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So don't knock too loudly.