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I am due to go down to half pay in approximately 4 weeks time following an accident on delivery at the end of January 2016.I read a couple of old posts on here where it was mentioned that full pay might be payed for an accident on delivery for 12 months.I put this to my local area rep but as yet he hasn't been able to confirm or deny this,was wondering if anyone on this site can give me the heads up regarding the issue.
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To be fair, that's a poor show from the ADR!
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POSTMAN wrote:To be fair, that's a poor show from the ADR!
Unfortunately you are correct.I have got more help and direction from this forum regarding Industrial injuries benefits,PABS to mention but a few.I feel as I have to be always chasing for answers.
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Have you started a personal injury claim yet?
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zx135 wrote:Have you started a personal injury claim yet?
Yes that's underway thanks.
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chelseachris wrote:
zx135 wrote:Have you started a personal injury claim yet?
Yes that's underway thanks.
in that case you should contact the solicitor and inquire about a preliminary payout, you are now going to be suffering a direct financial loss due to whoever fault the accident was, and a payout to cover immediate loss of earnings is not that uncommon
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zx135 wrote:
chelseachris wrote:
zx135 wrote:Have you started a personal injury claim yet?
Yes that's underway thanks.
in that case you should contact the solicitor and inquire about a preliminary payout, you are now going to be suffering a direct financial loss due to whoever fault the accident was, and a payout to cover immediate loss of earnings is not that uncommon
Royal Mail haven't responded to Solictors letter yet.I would like to see my Solictors face when I ask him that one.
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chelseachris wrote:
zx135 wrote:
chelseachris wrote:
zx135 wrote:Have you started a personal injury claim yet?
Yes that's underway thanks.
in that case you should contact the solicitor and inquire about a preliminary payout, you are now going to be suffering a direct financial loss due to whoever fault the accident was, and a payout to cover immediate loss of earnings is not that uncommon
Royal Mail haven't responded to Solictors letter yet.I would like to see my Solictors face when I ask him that one.
How long ago did you start proceeding? you should be a lot further down the line than sending a letter to royal mail if the accident happened 6 months ago, also if going by your previous posts it happened on private property then that's who should be getting your solicitors letters
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Had a bloke at our office who went over on ankle walking up customers path, on duty and broke it.

Manager said it was "an incident" and not an accident ! Is this correct or are they just trying to reduce stats.
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An employee who incurs sick absence directly due to an industrial injury
sustained, or to a prescribed industrial disease contracted, at work on or after 1
January 1979 will be allowed sick pay at the same rates as above. However
during the first six months (26 weeks) of any such absence the overall limits on
sick pay across four years will not apply. The first six months (26 weeks) of any
such absence will also be ignored when applying these maximum limits on sick
pay across any period of four years. Any continued absence beyond six months
will be paid according to personal entitlement and reckoned normally.
The business reserves the right to satisfy itself on the advice of its medical
advisers that absences are properly and directly attributable to injury sustained or
disease contracted at work. The allowance of full rate sick pay is subject to all of
the following conditions:
 The injury or disease must not be due to the employee's own serious and
culpable negligence or misconduct
 The injury or disease must be accepted by the DWP (Department of Work &
Pensions, formerly the DSS) as being due to an industrial accident, or
classified as an industrial disease
 Employees must comply with the general conditions for sick pay set out above
For the purpose of these provisions, "at work" means:
 During actual discharge of official duties
 While on Royal Mail Group premises for the purpose of duty but excluding
injury or disease arising from any activity not pertaining to official duty
 On a duty journey (other than a journey between home and normal HQ) where
the means of transport, route and timing are authorised or are compatible with
those needed for official purposes
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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... hp?id=8861
An employee who incurs sick absence directly due to an industrial injury
sustained, or to a prescribed industrial disease contracted, at work on or after 1
January 1979 will be allowed sick pay at the same rates as above. However
during the first six months (26 weeks) of any such absence the overall limits on
sick pay across four years will not apply. The first six months (26 weeks) of any
such absence will also be ignored when applying these maximum limits on sick
pay across any period of four years. Any continued absence beyond six months
will be paid according to personal entitlement and reckoned normally.
The business reserves the right to satisfy itself on the advice of its medical
advisers that absences are properly and directly attributable to injury sustained or
disease contracted at work. The allowance of full rate sick pay is subject to all of
the following conditions:
 The injury or disease must not be due to the employee's own serious and
culpable negligence or misconduct
 The injury or disease must be accepted by the DWP (Department of Work &
Pensions, formerly the DSS) as being due to an industrial accident, or
classified as an industrial disease
 Employees must comply with the general conditions for sick pay set out above
For the purpose of these provisions, "at work" means:
 During actual discharge of official duties
 While on Royal Mail Group premises for the purpose of duty but excluding
injury or disease arising from any activity not pertaining to official duty
 On a duty journey (other than a journey between home and normal HQ) where
the means of transport, route and timing are authorised or are compatible with
those needed for official purposes
 During an overseas assignment on Royal Mail Group business from the time
of leaving home until return there
Many thanks
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super-postie wrote:Had a bloke at our office who went over on ankle walking up customers path, on duty and broke it.

Manager said it was "an incident" and not an accident ! Is this correct or are they just trying to reduce stats.
Of course it's an accident,rep/area rep and beyond need to be informed of the manager.
Accident: An undesired event that results in harm to people damage to property or loss of property.

Incident: An undesired event which under slightly different circumstances, could have resulted in harm to people. damage to property, or loss of process.
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It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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The injury or disease must not be due to the employee's own serious and
culpable negligence or misconduct.


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Post by daveyeff »

you've got to be amazed at how ''brass necked'' some off these managers are though. they'll try ANYTHING!!
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Post by super-postie »

I got told if I got my fingers bit putting mail through a letterbox it would be a conduct issue ! And not against the dog !
How can it be your own fault going over on tour ankle. Bizzarre.