Part Timers Hours

[Boggle Boggle Boggle]

Hi,

This is my first post (excuse the pun) I work for RM as a postman and have done for nearly nine years now. What I want to know is does anyone know the actual rules that govern seniority in the RM? At our office four postmen have had their contracts increased to full time through the "job securities agreement" because they were put on static duties working full time hours. Because this could easily be shown as planned work by the union their contracts have been adjusted accordingly. As a senior postman having working for the business for significantly longer surely I should have been given the chance at having one of these jobs and ultimately had my contract upped. As it is I work full time hours when I can get them on the float. This whole arrangement seems very unfair as a new starter could in theory come in to RM on a 20 hour contract and by fluke be given a static duty for six months after which could claim a full time contract.

What are people's thoughts on this? And what solution is there?

[IcanthelpthewayIam]

The duties that got the extra hours should have been advertised as vacancies and put up for signing by the most senior person who wanted it, if this did not happen get the rep to lodge a disagreement over it, yes of people are working extra hours then contracts should be increased but it is not necessarily the person working those hours that should get them on their contract, it's the most senior person who wants them that should get that duty as it's technically a "new" duty

[TrueBlueTerrier]

http://www.cwu-e4.co.uk/WF_Seniority.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; The definition of seniority.

http://www.rickjewell.pwp.blueyonder.co ... EEMENT.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; How its applied

The practice of "most senior individual" will be used when filling non-specialist jobs internally.

[DB1100]

Hi,

This is my first post (excuse the pun) I work for RM as a postman and have done for nearly nine years now. What I want to know is does anyone know the actual rules that govern seniority in the RM? At our office four postmen have had their contracts increased to full time through the "job securities agreement" because they were put on static duties working full time hours. Because this could easily be shown as planned work by the union their contracts have been adjusted accordingly. As a senior postman having working for the business for significantly longer surely I should have been given the chance at having one of these jobs and ultimately had my contract upped. As it is I work full time hours when I can get them on the float. This whole arrangement seems very unfair as a new starter could in theory come in to RM on a 20 hour contract and by fluke be given a static duty for six months after which could claim a full time contract.

What are people's thoughts on this? And what solution is there?

This is what was going to happen at our DO with the office brown nosers,they were put on easy f/t jobs when senior posties left because management knew they could do some O/T and still get done within there duty time,we even had some F/t transfer in without any part timers being made up,however a few of us got on to the union and it's all been stopped and the brown nosers plans have all been axed

[korky]

F/t transfer in without any part timers being made up,however a few of us got on to the union and it's all been stopped and the brown nosers plans have all been axed

i had it confirmed by the cwu reps that ft'ers can transfer in without the need to advertise,internally or external,
they couldn't tell me how though as both of them admitted they don't know the current agreement used on this policy

[NewPostieUK]

As a senior postman having working for the business for significantly longer surely I should have been given the chance at having one of these jobs and ultimately had my contract upped.

What a good question! I have asked it many times as I am in the same boat (more or less).

I asked Dingo on here (this forum) and he stated that it should be based on seniority. So, me and you should be full time before these youngsters who get made up just because they've been doing a certain duty for a year and claiming overtime.

[Boggle Boggle Boggle]

I am following RM policy on this with regard to seniority that has historically always been hurled about by full-timers and getting nowhere fast. I have to assume as it moves up the chain fairness will prevail ...... but I highly doubt it!