Culturally ingrained dishonesty

Spottyjohn · Post by **Spottyjohn** » 05 Apr 2016, 22:04

Sorry Gents, I've been reading this forum since early December and tbh at first I thought
"There are some whinging old moaners on here..."

However, now I'm one of the longer serving blokes (4.5 months and counting) at my depot
I can fully see why some of lads here arrive at their positions.

The level of duplicity and falseness throughout the entire organisation beggars belief.

Our depot almost collapsed 3 weeks ago/2 part timers left, a 30+er was sacked, flu was rampant
so those still in/able (part timers) were doing at least 20 hours O/T to help.

This morning we find Out the manager has been putting green lines through the O/T sheets and bods are not being paid.

I saw in The Courier last time an article where we were told "We (Royal Mail) have to ensure we
get paid", about cancelling used stamps etc. This Morning we had a video Advert sorry 'work time leaning'
Which banged on about the same subject and yet the organisation condones it's operatives not
Being paid for work they've done.

We've been told we have to tell the manager before we go out in the morning if we think we'll go over......

I can't think of another industry where the workers have to barter/negotiate their wage each and every day
When they've already committed themselves by sorting and throwing up rounds.

I'm looking forward to finishing at 14.00 from now on and hope more reading this do.

Remember the manager is not OK, neither is his Creature sorry Lino they are 2 faced tw@ts
who will fu@k you over first time it suits them. Our Lino Lies even when the truth would work better, he's been
Doing it so long he just can't help himself.

They cross the line into illegality and unreason 'ability on an industrial scale, it's
A shame a lot of the guys are a bit thick, foreign or praps desperate so they go along
with it.

Any business that has such a high turn over of staff (about 6/7 a month at ours) has
To be doing something very wrong, but after 4.5 months I'm no longer shocked by anything (still surprised)
and I really think no one really cares if the company survives or not.

Of course Moyà and her Lieutenants knows all about this so it's rotten from the top down.

stephen5708 · Post by **stephen5708** » 05 Apr 2016, 22:38

Couldn't get beyond first line.

ratchet · Post by **ratchet** » 05 Apr 2016, 23:08

stephen5708 wrote:Couldn't get beyond first line.

Why ?

It's an interesting read, with many valid observations made.

Post by **POSTMAN** » 05 Apr 2016, 23:20

Dare I ask if you have a rep John.

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 05 Apr 2016, 23:47

Well "Spottyjohn" I do agree with you on most if not all of your point's most of us who moan on here have come to the same conclusion as you have, So we all have an interest in making work less stressful as you stated those ideas would be most beneficial if all workers did it but as it stands you would be the VERY FEW if not only one who did this I welcome your insight and wish you good luck in all your endeavours!

meercat · Post by **meercat** » 06 Apr 2016, 00:03

lol nice little post but a shame you have to call people thick. They just pretend to be thick to get a quiet life in my experience.

If you have no Union rep in your office you are the obvious candidate. Sure you can come on here and moan like everyone else John but have you got the balls and the nonce to be rep for your office? Or are you all talk and no action?

pants123 · Post by **pants123** » 06 Apr 2016, 07:11

What can be done to stop the torture being inflicted on delivery staff ??

This devastating evil pain and suffering cannot go on any longer....

Something drastic needs to happen.... rapid by the union....

borgpicard · Post by **borgpicard** » 06 Apr 2016, 07:22

pants123 wrote:What can be done to stop the torture being inflicted on delivery staff ??

This devastating evil pain and suffering cannot go on any longer....

Something drastic needs to happen.... rapid by the union....

Union ?, do we actually have one ?, well if we do they certainly look after themselves

bensonhedge · Post by **bensonhedge** » 06 Apr 2016, 13:15

Shares are up fella

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 06 Apr 2016, 16:11

bensonhedge wrote:Shares are up fella

Probably to do with the £500 million in cuts they promised city investors and you can guess where the cut's will be made.

Jpro747 · Post by **Jpro747** » 06 Apr 2016, 16:47

We've been in a huge mess ever since the revision came in 2 years ago. Rounds are unachivable. Expected to lapse all year round. Full timers leaving and not being replaced. Mail/packets being left in frame for several days and managers going on delivery. Staff being bullied into working overtime and not being paid for it.

Then when managers go on their conferenc call, they lie through their teeth and paint a picture to the DSM that everything is running smoothly!

Post by **POSTMAN** » 06 Apr 2016, 17:01

You guys need to start grassing on everything, imagine if everyone done it!
justsayit@royalmail.com

Yes at times justsayit is kack, but the more the merrier and all that.

Chewster · Post by **Chewster** » 06 Apr 2016, 19:38

The job is s**t at times yes, and the managers are largely a bunch of liars and usually bone idle, but to call what we go through as "torture" and "evil pain and suffering" is a bit far...

tonytucker · Post by **tonytucker** » 06 Apr 2016, 19:52

Chewster wrote:The job is s**t at times yes, and the managers are largely a bunch of liars and usually bone idle, but to call what we go through as "torture" and "evil pain and suffering" is a bit far...

Agree mate slight exaggeration there

bobthepostie · Post by **bobthepostie** » 06 Apr 2016, 20:15

Jpro747 wrote:We've been in a huge mess ever since the revision came in 2 years ago. Rounds are unachivable. Expected to lapse all year round. Full timers leaving and not being replaced. Mail/packets being left in frame for several days and managers going on delivery. Staff being bullied into working overtime and not being paid for it.

Then when managers go on their conferenc call, they lie through their teeth and paint a picture to the DSM that everything is running smoothly!

See it nearly everyday in my office. Mail figures being flung at us when we are saying we expect to go over. Doesn't matter how many parcels or packet bags we have, the mail figures show we should finish on time. Staff members not claiming overtime for fear of being ridiculed the following morning.

Constant lapsing despite going over without the lapsing. Had the lino and workplace coach out following me the other week (didn't tell me just showed up in a car) three days in a row but apparently they just happened to be passing by.

I have asked several times to get the duty tested and been refused. The rep is fully aware this goes on but turns a blind eye. Area rep couldn't give a monkeys, have seen him twice in 6 years.

A grievance I put in was acknowledged by the dom and told it would be fixed yet nothing has changed.

A few of us speak up but we are branded the troublemakers. The rest have been beaten into submission and will not risk upsetting the dom or lino.

Had many a job in my working life and have NEVER ever seen a place so badly managed by people who literally do not have a clue.