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How do you put in a motion at conference?

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smokerjim
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How do you put in a motion at conference?

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I know I should speak to my rep ( the mighty "Trojan" :Very Happy ), but since the change in start times, I only get 1.5 hrs prep time to have a prayer of finishing on time ( I've stopped doing docket as I think it is the only protest I can make ), and I haven't seen him when I get back.

Anyway, I want to put a motion in at Liverpool and I want to know what I have to do to get it in.

Also, I might as well ask you what the chances are of getting it heard & what you think are the chances of getting it carried. The motion is I would like is for the GS's pay to be brought down closer to the level of the membership ( say 2.5 times the highest level wage of a working member, and for all officers renumerated by the union to have their pay structured downwards accordingly. I would also like all renumeration and benefits of union officers to be tied into those of their members ( ie, if they negotiate CARE based pensions for us, that is what they end up with themselves, etc ).

I have no idea what Hayes earns as GS, but I have heard here it is in the region of £80k, with all the benefits someone of that pay bracket should expect, and it has been speculated that the leadership has lost touch with the membership....if they negotiate their pay at the same time as ours, I figure it might motivate a bit more tenacity. Also, I realise it would mean a signifcant drop in pay for the officials, but the job should be about what you can achieve for your colleagues, not about getting power & money, before riding off to a comfy berth in Parliment or on a Quango.....I would rather a passionate advocate for my cause than another cowboy Like Alan Johnson.

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red123
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How do you put a motion into Conference?

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Go to your Branch Meeting comrade. Your Branch will have to agree the motion and submit it in line with Annual Conference Standing Orders. While you are at it ask how you can be a delegate to conference and then you can actually speak to it as well. No guarantee that it will berreached in the order paper, but if you don't try.... :lfo :cfo
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Post by baldrick »

I'm not sure about this but I think the pay of our senior officers is linked to the pay of senior RM managers.
If this is in the CWU rules it would mean a rule change which requires a two thirds majority either at National Conference or Rules Revision Conference, not sure which.
A Branch Motion would be unlikely to be heard unless a lot of Branches put in similar motions.
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Post by smokerjim »

baldrick wrote:I'm not sure about this but I think the pay of our senior officers is linked to the pay of senior RM managers.
If this is in the CWU rules it would mean a rule change which requires a two thirds majority either at National Conference or Rules Revision Conference, not sure which.
A Branch Motion would be unlikely to be heard unless a lot of Branches put in similar motions.
How many brances have members that are also members here? :whistle :whistle Just a thought... :wink:
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Post by chayoliver »

i heard today that royal mail pays the wages of PEC not the union can anyone clarify this :left:
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Post by smokerjim »

chayoliver wrote:i heard today that royal mail pays the wages of PEC not the union can anyone clarify this :left:
That cannot be right :left: it's a wind up - otherwise it is a huge conflict of interest.....the level of Leighton getting paid by TNT, or Brown getting paid by The Conservative Party.....

......sorry, bad examples :oops: :oops:

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Post by smokerjim »

baldrick wrote:I'm not sure about this but I think the pay of our senior officers is linked to the pay of senior RM managers.
If this is in the CWU rules it would mean a rule change which requires a two thirds majority either at National Conference or Rules Revision Conference, not sure which.
A Branch Motion would be unlikely to be heard unless a lot of Branches put in similar motions.
Who would like to put a similar motion in at their Branch?
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Post by baldrick »

chayoliver wrote:i heard today that royal mail pays the wages of PEC not the union can anyone clarify this :left:
PEC members are lay members and are paid their normal pay while released for CWU work, the same as your Branch Secretary, Area Rep, and any other Branch officer or Rep who is on release for union work.
The only peope who are paid by the CWU are the full time Senior Officers and CWU HQ staff.
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