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2016 pay rise?

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Postie.11
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2016 pay rise?

Post by Postie.11 »

The last pay deal ends in April, does anyone know if we're likely of getting a pay rise this year? Thanks.
k979aaa
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Re: 2016 pay rise?

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Don't think pay rise is our biggest concern this year or for the next few years!
IloveMYredTROLLEY!
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Re: 2016 pay rise?

Post by IloveMYredTROLLEY! »

Same pay for reduced contracted hours, watch this space!
spen
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Re: 2016 pay rise?

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IloveMYredTROLLEY! wrote:Same pay for reduced contracted hours, watch this space!
Would mean a rise then for part timers whose hours dont get reduced ,,
IloveMYredTROLLEY!
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spen wrote:
IloveMYredTROLLEY! wrote:Same pay for reduced contracted hours, watch this space!
Would mean a rise then for part timers whose hours dont get reduced ,,
Why wouldn't part timers get a pro-rata reduction in contracted hours in line with a full time contracted hours reduction?

Let's say for arguments sake, RM want to reduce FT hours from 39 to 37 contracted hours per week for the same pay level as we have now, equivalent to ~5.13% (yes, a very optimistic equivalent pay rise).

30 hour PT would reduce to ~28hrs27mins.

22.5 hour PT would reduce to ~21hrs21mins.

etc.

And because managers don't want a headache on Saturdays, the contracted hours will be slightly longer on that day.
spen
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Re: 2016 pay rise?

Post by spen »

IloveMYredTROLLEY! wrote:
spen wrote:
IloveMYredTROLLEY! wrote:Same pay for reduced contracted hours, watch this space!
Would mean a rise then for part timers whose hours dont get reduced ,,
Why wouldn't part timers get a pro-rata reduction in contracted hours in line with a full time contracted hours reduction?

Let's say for arguments sake, RM want to reduce FT hours from 39 to 37 contracted hours per week for the same pay level as we have now, equivalent to ~5.13% (yes, a very optimistic equivalent pay rise).

30 hour PT would reduce to ~28hrs27mins.

22.5 hour PT would reduce to ~21hrs21mins.

etc.

And because managers don't want a headache on Saturdays, the contracted hours will be slightly longer on that day.
When they reduced your hours from 40 to 39 we never got a reduction in hours,, we got a slight rise If i remember rightly,,, and its not part timers hours they want to reduce,,, they want to bring full time hours down
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Re: 2016 pay rise?

Post by fishtank »

I would be careful about wishing for a reduction in the working week because it may just include the removal of paid breaks which would obviously negate any increase in part-time take home pay. It will of course be spun as an increase in hourly rate but it might not be all it appears.
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spen
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Re: 2016 pay rise?

Post by spen »

No where have I said I want a reduction in hours,, was just replying to a comment,,, most part timers would like to increase there hours
Surreypostie
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Re: 2016 pay rise?

Post by Surreypostie »

fishtank wrote:I would be careful about wishing for a reduction in the working week because it may just include the removal of paid breaks which would obviously negate any increase in part-time take home pay. It will of course be spun as an increase in hourly rate but it might not be all it appears.
I agree, all these fools who currently work through their breaks. If they stopped paying for them, by law you would still have to take them. I'd prefer to keep being paid for my breaks.
parforthewalk
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Re: 2016 pay rise?

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Surreypostie wrote:
fishtank wrote:I would be careful about wishing for a reduction in the working week because it may just include the removal of paid breaks which would obviously negate any increase in part-time take home pay. It will of course be spun as an increase in hourly rate but it might not be all it appears.
I agree, all these fools who currently work through their breaks. If they stopped paying for them, by law you would still have to take them. I'd prefer to keep being paid for my breaks.
Under current H&S guidelines you should be taking them anyway. However the management in my unit aren't really interested in staff taking them or enforcing/policing them & probably never will despite whether we are paid for them or not. The funny thing is a lot of staff moan about not having time to take a break because they have got lapsing to take as extra work! FFS!!
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Re: 2016 pay rise?

Post by oldrope »

Surreypostie wrote:
fishtank wrote:I would be careful about wishing for a reduction in the working week because it may just include the removal of paid breaks which would obviously negate any increase in part-time take home pay. It will of course be spun as an increase in hourly rate but it might not be all it appears.
I agree, all these fools who currently work through their breaks. If they stopped paying for them, by law you would still have to take them. I'd prefer to keep being paid for my breaks.

Me too,I go in the gym at my MC in my break so if you think about it I'm getting payed to go in the gym.
grahamkirwin
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Re: 2016 pay rise?

Post by grahamkirwin »

rrr
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halfull
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Re: 2016 pay rise?

Post by halfull »

grahamkirwin wrote:
k979aaa wrote:Don't think pay rise is our biggest concern this year or for the next few years!
It may not be the biggest concern to you but it certainly is to me. Of course, if your not bothered at the prospect of no wage increase untill 2019...
:roll:
k979aaa
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Re: 2016 pay rise?

Post by k979aaa »

halfull wrote:
grahamkirwin wrote:
k979aaa wrote:Don't think pay rise is our biggest concern this year or for the next few years!
It may not be the biggest concern to you but it certainly is to me. Of course, if your not bothered at the prospect of no wage increase untill 2019...
:roll:
Maybe you would prefer to walk yourself into IHR but I don't so run around for a few pence more and repent at your leisure.
postiewhite
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Re: 2016 pay rise?

Post by postiewhite »

Lidl and Aldi are catching up with the hourly rate and in 3 years the minimum wage won't be far off either. :wave