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Packets in blue bin

Postal workers discussion forum. Discuss the day to day life in a Blue Shirt.
bostaph
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Packets in blue bin

Post by bostaph »

Hi, can someone please tell me RM's policy regarding packets, (tracked etc) left in blue bins/sheds. Will they take action against me if the item goes missing? I rarely do it, as I believe my management team would take action against me in a heartbeat, even though they put pressure on all of us to do it. Thanks.
jimmynailsalive
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Re: Packets in blue bin

Post by jimmynailsalive »

bostaph wrote:Hi, can someone please tell me RM's policy regarding packets, (tracked etc) left in blue bins/sheds. Will they take action against me if the item goes missing? I rarely do it, as I believe my management team would take action against me in a heartbeat, even though they put pressure on all of us to do it. Thanks.
Think the advice everyone on here will give you is if you value your job, just don't do it for anyone. When it goes wrong you'll be left holding 100% of the blame and RM are always looking to find scapegoats when it suits them.
Postie45
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Re: Packets in blue bin

Post by Postie45 »

someone in my office got in big trouble for doing this, its all ok till something goes missing then guess what, its YOUR fault, youre not really benefiting that much by doing this anyway and the costs certainly out weight the benefits when that one time something either goes missing or someone says that its gone missing.
bustedflush
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Re: Packets in blue bin

Post by bustedflush »

Sometimes people leave instructions on the door if expecting a packet, for a place to drop it. Take a photo of the note, remove it after for security and photo the packet in that place. It covers your a$$ (well it does in our place!!) and to my knowledge there hasn't been an incidence of anyone falling foul by following addressee's instruction. Otherwise, take it back.
mudmonster
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Re: Packets in blue bin

Post by mudmonster »

Okay to photo it if you,ve got a phone that does it,If RM want you to get rid of all packets/parcels anywhere you can they should add an app that takes photos to that useless brick called a pda :you shouldn,t have to cover yourself just stick to their rules. no no :no no
GT85
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Re: Packets in blue bin

Post by GT85 »

If RM want you to get rid of all packets/parcels anywhere you can they should add an app that takes photos to that useless brick called a pda
The new pda has a camera function but when will they arrive in the real world of delivery

If in doubt better to let the callers office get grief from the customer because they had to come and get it rather than you get grief because it went missing.
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deltaforce
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Re: Packets in blue bin

Post by deltaforce »

If you leave an item in a place that you know is not secure, even if you've been asked to , then you could be held blame worthy. It is better to suffer the wrath of the receipiant, that suffer the wrath of your Dom.
bostaph
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Re: Packets in blue bin

Post by bostaph »

Ok, many thanks for all your replies.
A handful of customers have asked me to leave packets in bins/sheds. I always feel uncomfortable doing it. Shut notice from now on.
jimmynailsalive
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Re: Packets in blue bin

Post by jimmynailsalive »

bostaph wrote:Ok, many thanks for all your replies.
A handful of customers have asked me to leave packets in bins/sheds. I always feel uncomfortable doing it. Shut notice from now on.
I was in a more rural office last year and done it for loads of people, very few of them tipped me last Christmas so I remember thinking I had saved many of them 20 or so trips at up to 10 miles return trip plus the wait for parking etc. It's not about a tip, it was the understanding that these people did not realise I was taking a risk doing them a huge favour and it made me realise if something went wrong they'd feed me to the wolves at the first opportunity. I'd be lying if I said I didn't have a few people on my round that I totally trust though but I no longer accept instructions where to stick parcels.

PS I found a tenner in the street today, shared it with my mate but result :nana
OnAFlyer
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Re: Packets in blue bin

Post by OnAFlyer »

If you have the nominate a neighbour cards, the customer can also nominate a place they want stuff leaving then send the card back or give it you to return to the office. It's then an official request and you are covered to leave stuff there.

Then again knowing RM every other office probably has different rules!
greengiant
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Re: Packets in blue bin

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Nothing to stop Mr Thief from putting a note on a door, pretending to be from a customer, asking for parcel to be left in bin? :hmmmm
bustedflush
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Re: Packets in blue bin

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greengiant wrote:Nothing to stop Mr Thief from putting a note on a door, pretending to be from a customer, asking for parcel to be left in bin? :hmmmm
Most of them can't write though.
P13
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Re: Packets in blue bin

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greengiant wrote:Nothing to stop Mr Thief from putting a note on a door, pretending to be from a customer, asking for parcel to be left in bin? :hmmmm
Correct, never take note of a note
dblad
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Re: Packets in blue bin

Post by dblad »

greengiant wrote:Nothing to stop Mr Thief from putting a note on a door, pretending to be from a customer, asking for parcel to be left in bin? :hmmmm
How does Mr Thief know you have a parcel due that day, unless Mr Postman phones him.
bustedflush
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Re: Packets in blue bin

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dblad wrote:
greengiant wrote:Nothing to stop Mr Thief from putting a note on a door, pretending to be from a customer, asking for parcel to be left in bin? :hmmmm
How does Mr Thief know you have a parcel due that day, unless Mr Postman phones him.
Because he has a wide range of tools available to him. Phone taps are out now due to most using mobiles. He pushes a 'spike mike' into the putty around the window frame, transmitting to him waiting in a car round the corner. Each time he hears of an impending packet, he moves on with his tools to the next house. Early next day, under the pretext of leafleting, he subtly sticks a note to the recipient doors as he goes round. He has already attached a magnetic tracking device to each delivery vehicle he has ever encountered, and follows them with GPS on his phone. This means he can wait out of sight around a corner until the drop is completed.
He then dons a hi-viz vest as people automatically see these as legitimate and carrying authority. He then goes round and steals his 10 plastic jars of Herbalife vitamins, 5 Sports Direct giant mugs, 2 Meerkats and a brace of BT modems.