DOM's, Line Managers sorting etc

[eastie]

We have a DOM and 2 Line Managers sorting lapsed walks, Doing the cage, sorting parcels, IPS etc
This shouldn't be happening and the Union rep is next to useless
This shouldn't be going on and if you whistleblow you have to give your name.
What will happen.....more hours taken out the office

[SpacePhoenix]

We have a DOM and 2 Line Managers sorting lapsed walks, Doing the cage, sorting parcels, IPS etc
This shouldn't be happening and the Union rep is next to useless
This shouldn't be going on and if you whistleblow you have to give your name.
What will happen.....more hours taken out the office

Seems to be the norm on DOs and MCs up and down the country

[Shaders]

Dont forget going out on delivery

[IcanthelpthewayIam]

If you 2histle blow to moyas email address you can do that anonymously, if rep not putting in a disagreement about it and the office is unhappy then simply go above him to area rep or above him to branch

[tonytucker]

What is the email address? Sick of our managers tipping packets sorting letters tipping per stops and even collecting our mail for us when ips finished,they even throw our d2d up the day before because they worried to death we may cut off

[Hitcher]

Don't bother nothing will happen.

[IcanthelpthewayIam]

Don't bother nothing will happen.

The email adress is justsayit@royalmail.com

as for nothing happening, that's usually not the case the team that deal with them are very proactive and you usually seem results pretty quickly, the cases that don't usually work are when people complain about things they think are wrong but in actual case are actually allowed in certain circumstances, ie undelivered mail, manager reports it but postie not happen so email moya, manager followed correct procedures so nothing happens and postie pissed off as he thought incorrectly manager in the wrong

[Himaggen]

Your Union Rep is supposed to be reporting this type of thing via the IR Framework, so they may well have done so behind the scenes.

[ThatsNotPlumb]

The fact that this sort of thing seems to be almost considered 'normal' behavior tells you just how inept some DO's/MC's union reps are.

I mean how could you call yourself a rep when you stand by and see hours cut from your DO, yet at the same time walk past managers doing opg work prepping frames, distributing trays, sorting mail/packets/tracks/specials, shifting yorks about from here to there & I've even heard that some have been out on delivery!

Whether or not somethings been said about it behind the scenes is really irrelevant as it's still happening. I've no problem if a manager wants to aid once in a blue moon to get people up and out the door, but it shouldn't be happening everyday, which is what seems to happen.

[k979aaa]

The fact that this sort of thing seems to be almost considered 'normal' behavior tells you just how inept some DO's/MC's union reps are.

I mean how could you call yourself a rep when you stand by and see hours cut from your DO, yet at the same time walk past managers doing opg work prepping frames, distributing trays, sorting mail/packets/tracks/specials, shifting yorks about from here to there & I've even heard that some have been out on delivery!

Whether or not somethings been said about it behind the scenes is really irrelevant as it's still happening. I've no problem if a manager wants to aid once in a blue moon to get people up and out the door, but it shouldn't be happening everyday, which is what seems to happen.

It's all part of the bonus culture that has become prevalent in RM today but it's the top bosses who really get the big bucks!

[Himaggen]

Whether or not somethings been said about it behind the scenes is really irrelevant as it's still happening.

The Rep isn't there to potentially jeopardise their job, (despite the fact some may call them 'useless'), their instruction is the IR Framework and leave those issues for Divisional/Area to deal with.

[Hitcher]

Don't bother nothing will happen.

The email adress is justsayit@royalmail.com

as for nothing happening, that's usually not the case the team that deal with them are very proactive and you usually seem results pretty quickly, the cases that don't usually work are when people complain about things they think are wrong but in actual case are actually allowed in certain circumstances, ie undelivered mail, manager reports it but postie not happen so email moya, manager followed correct procedures so nothing happens and postie pissed off as he thought incorrectly manager in the wrong

I reported numerous things that I know for a fact are wrong over a period of 2 months and after repeated replies that every was being taken care of or wasn't actually happening I got this final response.

Good afternoon

Thank you for your email to Moya’s JustSayIt site. I have again been asked to reply.

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May I add that the JustSayIt channel is not an anonymous one. Perhaps it may be of benefit if I ask your manager to speak to you personally so that you can fully discuss your continued concerns. To do this please provide me with your name.

Alternatively, if you prefer to continue to report these issues anonymously may I kindly suggest that this is brought to the attention of our Speak Up team. They are independent of Royal Mail and investigate complaints of this nature anonymously and confidentially. It may therefore be more appropriate for you to contact them. Their details are found at http://www.intouchfeedback.com/royalmail" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.

You may also speak with our employee support team, “First Class Support” helpline - 0800 688 8777 for employee assistance.

Thank you again for highlighting these issues.

Kind regards

Jane

[IcanthelpthewayIam]

Don't bother nothing will happen.

The email adress is justsayit@royalmail.com

as for nothing happening, that's usually not the case the team that deal with them are very proactive and you usually seem results pretty quickly, the cases that don't usually work are when people complain about things they think are wrong but in actual case are actually allowed in certain circumstances, ie undelivered mail, manager reports it but postie not happen so email moya, manager followed correct procedures so nothing happens and postie pissed off as he thought incorrectly manager in the wrong

I reported numerous things that I know for a fact are wrong over a period of 2 months and after repeated replies that every was being taken care of or wasn't actually happening I got this final response.

Good afternoon

Thank you for your email to Moya’s JustSayIt site. I have again been asked to reply.

[removed]

[removed]

[removed]

May I add that the JustSayIt channel is not an anonymous one. Perhaps it may be of benefit if I ask your manager to speak to you personally so that you can fully discuss your continued concerns. To do this please provide me with your name.

Alternatively, if you prefer to continue to report these issues anonymously may I kindly suggest that this is brought to the attention of our Speak Up team. They are independent of Royal Mail and investigate complaints of this nature anonymously and confidentially. It may therefore be more appropriate for you to contact them. Their details are found at http://www.intouchfeedback.com/royalmail" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.

You may also speak with our employee support team, “First Class Support” helpline - 0800 688 8777 for employee assistance.

Thank you again for highlighting these issues.

Kind regards

Jane

what we're you complaining about?

[Hitcher]

No van checks, trolleys not being used/bags on shoulders, D2D's being left over for the following week and/or not done at all on lapsed/OT duties, people leaving the office 2 hours early as soon as the IPS is done hence not taking their miss-sorts/redirections, etc.

In each reply I was told these things weren't happening and proper procedures were being adhered to, so I gave up caring any more.

[IcanthelpthewayIam]

No van checks, trolleys not being used/bags on shoulders, D2D's being left over for the following week and/or not done at all on lapsed/OT duties, people leaving the office 2 hours early as soon as the IPS is done hence not taking their miss-sorts/redirections, etc.

In each reply I was told these things weren't happening and proper procedures were being adhered to, so I gave up caring any more.

thats what I am trying to say, most of those things are actually allowed (as long as dom then follows certain procedures whixh you would probably not know if he had or not) hence why when you may have wrongly complained about them nothing may be done, not because manager was in wrong but because you were actual complaining about something that is allowed

take the example of posties going out without waiting for missorts dom simply needs to enter number of missorts not sent out into computer and that's that, it's not an issue until the numbers being inputted start to get into the mid hundreds, you may not like that but it's perfectly allowable