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Postman take all mail, parcelforce take all parcels....
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sophie97
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Postman take all mail, parcelforce take all parcels....
it seems to me that the cause of 90% of time issues are parcels, would it not make more sense if royal mail dealt only in mail and parcel force in all the parcels?
It would make things so much quicker. not having to sort parcels in the morning, having more space in the van, saving hours not delivering parcels or writing p739s, trying neighbours etc.
the man hours needed would go down, which in turn would mean parcel force would need more hours, and could take up the staff that royal mail no longer needs.
it just seems to me that royal mails focus on mail and parcels is not efficient and splitting the two would make more sense.
It would make things so much quicker. not having to sort parcels in the morning, having more space in the van, saving hours not delivering parcels or writing p739s, trying neighbours etc.
the man hours needed would go down, which in turn would mean parcel force would need more hours, and could take up the staff that royal mail no longer needs.
it just seems to me that royal mails focus on mail and parcels is not efficient and splitting the two would make more sense.
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trevjim
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Re: Postman take all mail, parcelforce take all parcels....
it would make alot more sense, im sure most people would rather take say another loop of mail in return for no parcels.
I think its too late for that though in terms of staffing, this should of been done before parcels really took off.
I think its too late for that though in terms of staffing, this should of been done before parcels really took off.
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Burghboy
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Re: Postman take all mail, parcelforce take all parcels....
We are taking more and more parcels and now even bigger ones, it's only a matter of time before they start phasing parcel force out.
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bigbazza
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Re: Postman take all mail, parcelforce take all parcels....
If you only took mail and no parcels how many job losses do you think there would be, would you like to lose your job because of this. 
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trevjim
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Re: Postman take all mail, parcelforce take all parcels....
she does say that parcel force would have to take up the man hours that royal mail no longer needs.bigbazza wrote:If you only took mail and no parcels how many job losses do you think there would be, would you like to lose your job because of this.
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motherhubbard
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Re: Postman take all mail, parcelforce take all parcels....
If we only delivered letters then our indoor and outdoor time would be severely reduced - meaning either much longer deliveries or a 100% part time workforce.
Parcelforce might take up some of those job losses which would be fine for those that drive and want to be owner/drivers.
For the rest - part time or P45?
Why don't RM employ a separate more flexible workforce to deliver the D2D?
No one likes doing them and some weeks you get 6 and some weeks none, so having a separate workforce on zero hour contracts/minimum wage to deal with the fluctuations would make more sense.
Parcelforce might take up some of those job losses which would be fine for those that drive and want to be owner/drivers.
For the rest - part time or P45?
Why don't RM employ a separate more flexible workforce to deliver the D2D?
No one likes doing them and some weeks you get 6 and some weeks none, so having a separate workforce on zero hour contracts/minimum wage to deal with the fluctuations would make more sense.
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Jefferson Starfish
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Re: Postman take all mail, parcelforce take all parcels....
Because they get the current workforce to do them for nothing.motherhubbard wrote:Why don't RM employ a separate more flexible workforce to deliver the D2D?
No one likes doing them and some weeks you get 6 and some weeks none, so having a separate workforce on zero hour contracts/minimum wage to deal with the fluctuations would make more sense.
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rambo1
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Re: Postman take all mail, parcelforce take all parcels....
We already do, they're called agency, but they also take mail too! Apart from sd that is, can't be trusted with them although everything else is fine lol.motherhubbard wrote:If we only delivered letters then our indoor and outdoor time would be severely reduced - meaning either much longer deliveries or a 100% part time workforce.
Parcelforce might take up some of those job losses which would be fine for those that drive and want to be owner/drivers.
For the rest - part time or P45?
Why don't RM employ a separate more flexible workforce to deliver the D2D?
No one likes doing them and some weeks you get 6 and some weeks none, so having a separate workforce on zero hour contracts/minimum wage to deal with the fluctuations would make more sense.
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halfull
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Re: Postman take all mail, parcelforce take all parcels....
how about they just make the walks smaller! 
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rjack
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Re: Postman take all mail, parcelforce take all parcels....
I do a rural and many times I'm at a farm when parcel force turn up this is a waste of time and fuel,many times it's just a dvd or small packet.
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Creditshampoo
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Re: Postman take all mail, parcelforce take all parcels....
Because if you have all our parcels to parcel force they wouldn't be able to cope with the massive amount of traffic, and postman would go home early, hours to be saved resulting in job losses.
If you have a problem with the increase revenue Royal Mail is getting from parcels feel free to cut off at the end of your duty time if you feel you're going over.
If you have a problem with the increase revenue Royal Mail is getting from parcels feel free to cut off at the end of your duty time if you feel you're going over.
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DGP1
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Re: Postman take all mail, parcelforce take all parcels....
Maybe instead of cutting deliveries or sending work off to others we could get rid of van share, I know I can take my duty easily in my van but I struggle to fit in both.
And I know that an individual duty is faster than a van share.
And I know that an individual duty is faster than a van share.
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wally7
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Re: Postman take all mail, parcelforce take all parcels....
In my day parcel force didn't exist I can remember delivering parcel of all shapes and sizes.
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greengiant
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Re: Postman take all mail, parcelforce take all parcels....
Those large boxes with preinflated helium party balloons certainly take a fair bit of space in the back of a bipper!wally7 wrote:In my day parcel force didn't exist I can remember delivering parcel of all shapes and sizes.
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eric the viking
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Re: Postman take all mail, parcelforce take all parcels....
At my depot each driver covers three post code areas eg, xx1 1, xx1 2,xx1 3. That is a large area, With all the parcels you want shifted over. it just can't be done.