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100% privatised one day, agency workers in the next

Postal workers discussion forum. Discuss the day to day life in a Blue Shirt.
Hitcher
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100% privatised one day, agency workers in the next

Post by Hitcher »

No consulting, no training, just you're working with them today.

Is this the future of RM?
datasaint
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Re: 100% privatised one day, agency workers in the next

Post by datasaint »

DO's in my area won't have it, threats of walk-outs etc.
bustedflush
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Re: 100% privatised one day, agency workers in the next

Post by bustedflush »

Hitcher wrote:No consulting, no training, just you're working with them today.

Is this the future of RM?
Yep. Happened to me last week. Took my van keys back told me I had to take a Tranny out as an agency worker was coming with us. Slow as hell, I don't think they understand the pace we have to walk in order to complete in our time. 7.50 an hour they're being paid. Makes me laugh as 3 out of 4 told the managers they weren't going to work Saturday, the day most rounds are docketed due to no cover..... :Very Happy :Very Happy

I think it's going to be normal now, nothing to do with privatization - the reason is that new inductees via proper RM recruitment have a failure rate to last the first 6 months of anything up to 8/9. So their new logic is to take agency with the promise of a proper RM contract if they can hack being the scum of the earth like us reserves are.

I reckon it's cheaper to use a scattergun approach via agencies than for RM to keep sending people on induction days and interviewing them etc. only for them to leave as soon as they start floating and realizing what a terribly stressful job the reserve has.

P.S. Before these agency people arrived, we did take 4 RM contracts on. 3 left within the month. :crazy: :crazy:
raymod
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Re: 100% privatised one day, agency workers in the next

Post by raymod »

Hitcher wrote:No consulting, no training, just you're working with them today.

Is this the future of RM?
I myself started as a agency worker 11 years ago thrown onto walks etc etc no training so on and so on.
Didn't do me any harm and I'm still here today. Although the pay aspect was abit unfair
aiden01
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Re: 100% privatised one day, agency workers in the next

Post by aiden01 »

most mc,s are full of agency staff creaming off all the ot from opg,s absolute farce.
Spedley
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Re: 100% privatised one day, agency workers in the next

Post by Spedley »

Our DOM was moaning he had no staff and wasn't allowed agency workers - he was considering getting some in to get the jobs covered and then dodging the flack from his boss later.
alliasjay
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Re: 100% privatised one day, agency workers in the next

Post by alliasjay »

raymod wrote:
Hitcher wrote:No consulting, no training, just you're working with them today.

Is this the future of RM?
I myself started as a agency worker 11 years ago thrown onto walks etc etc no training so on and so on.
Didn't do me any harm and I'm still here today. Although the pay aspect was abit unfair
bit easier 11 years ago tho no? :p
A2B
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Re: 100% privatised one day, agency workers in the next

Post by A2B »

Hitcher wrote:No consulting, no training, just you're working with them today.

Is this the future of RM?
Been happening for a year or so in our area, thrown into the job without training and they wonder why there's such a high turnover of staff.
Hitcher
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Re: 100% privatised one day, agency workers in the next

Post by Hitcher »

What annoys me is the fact that the WPC's aren't training them up, it's just left to the guys they're partnered with.
Darren Bent
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Re: 100% privatised one day, agency workers in the next

Post by Darren Bent »

There are some recently in our DO. We had 5 new rookies in the summer, and only one lovely lady still around and the rest quit. It seems to me they can't cope with rotating duty or monster size walks.
A2B
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Re: 100% privatised one day, agency workers in the next

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Hitcher wrote:What annoys me is the fact that the WPC's aren't training them up, it's just left to the guys they're partnered with.
We don't have WPC's as nobody wants the job :cuppa
datasaint
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Re: 100% privatised one day, agency workers in the next

Post by datasaint »

A2B wrote:
Hitcher wrote:What annoys me is the fact that the WPC's aren't training them up, it's just left to the guys they're partnered with.
We don't have WPC's as nobody wants the job :cuppa
Nobody wants an extra £35 a week for essentially doing nothing?
A2B
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Re: 100% privatised one day, agency workers in the next

Post by A2B »

norm wrote:
A2B wrote:
Hitcher wrote:What annoys me is the fact that the WPC's aren't training them up, it's just left to the guys they're partnered with.
We don't have WPC's as nobody wants the job :cuppa
Nobody wants an extra £35 a week for essentially doing nothing?
Nope, if you want to get into management you might as well go and be a manager, never going to work out well working with a colleague one day then having to retrain them the next because your manager says their performance isn't up to it
salomon
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Re: 100% privatised one day, agency workers in the next

Post by salomon »

The agency worker who appeared at our do last week was sent out with no hi viz and he was wearing scruffy joggers and a black hoody, I'm amazed no one stopped him pushing the trolley up the road!!
BarnsleyLackey
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Re: 100% privatised one day, agency workers in the next

Post by BarnsleyLackey »

A2B wrote:
norm wrote:
A2B wrote:
Hitcher wrote:What annoys me is the fact that the WPC's aren't training them up, it's just left to the guys they're partnered with.
We don't have WPC's as nobody wants the job :cuppa
Nobody wants an extra £35 a week for essentially doing nothing?
Nope, if you want to get into management you might as well go and be a manager, never going to work out well working with a colleague one day then having to retrain them the next because your manager says their performance isn't up to it

It sounds like you're putting too much thought into the training that's done. If you're told how to train someone, that's the model you use. If a lino is getting silly about the trainee's performance, then that's what it is: his performance. As soon as it was put through at ours, it was grabbed at as money for old rope.
On a side note - would making someone on a singleton duty a WPC be classed as ironic?