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100% privatised one day, agency workers in the next
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Hitcher
- Posts: 1530
- Joined: 20 Sep 2009, 09:59
- Gender: Male
100% privatised one day, agency workers in the next
No consulting, no training, just you're working with them today.
Is this the future of RM?
Is this the future of RM?
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datasaint
- Posts: 1541
- Joined: 22 Sep 2008, 17:19
- Gender: Male
Re: 100% privatised one day, agency workers in the next
DO's in my area won't have it, threats of walk-outs etc.
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bustedflush
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 1493
- Joined: 16 Feb 2013, 11:19
- Gender: Male
Re: 100% privatised one day, agency workers in the next
Yep. Happened to me last week. Took my van keys back told me I had to take a Tranny out as an agency worker was coming with us. Slow as hell, I don't think they understand the pace we have to walk in order to complete in our time. 7.50 an hour they're being paid. Makes me laugh as 3 out of 4 told the managers they weren't going to work Saturday, the day most rounds are docketed due to no cover.....Hitcher wrote:No consulting, no training, just you're working with them today.
Is this the future of RM?
I think it's going to be normal now, nothing to do with privatization - the reason is that new inductees via proper RM recruitment have a failure rate to last the first 6 months of anything up to 8/9. So their new logic is to take agency with the promise of a proper RM contract if they can hack being the scum of the earth like us reserves are.
I reckon it's cheaper to use a scattergun approach via agencies than for RM to keep sending people on induction days and interviewing them etc. only for them to leave as soon as they start floating and realizing what a terribly stressful job the reserve has.
P.S. Before these agency people arrived, we did take 4 RM contracts on. 3 left within the month.
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raymod
- Posts: 23
- Joined: 21 Dec 2010, 16:30
- Gender: Male
Re: 100% privatised one day, agency workers in the next
I myself started as a agency worker 11 years ago thrown onto walks etc etc no training so on and so on.Hitcher wrote:No consulting, no training, just you're working with them today.
Is this the future of RM?
Didn't do me any harm and I'm still here today. Although the pay aspect was abit unfair
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aiden01
- MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
- Posts: 7001
- Joined: 27 Feb 2013, 21:43
- Gender: Male
Re: 100% privatised one day, agency workers in the next
most mc,s are full of agency staff creaming off all the ot from opg,s absolute farce.
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Spedley
- Posts: 1209
- Joined: 16 Jul 2007, 17:32
- Location: Warwickshire
Re: 100% privatised one day, agency workers in the next
Our DOM was moaning he had no staff and wasn't allowed agency workers - he was considering getting some in to get the jobs covered and then dodging the flack from his boss later.
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alliasjay
- Posts: 39
- Joined: 19 Mar 2012, 10:14
- Gender: Male
Re: 100% privatised one day, agency workers in the next
bit easier 11 years ago tho no? :praymod wrote:I myself started as a agency worker 11 years ago thrown onto walks etc etc no training so on and so on.Hitcher wrote:No consulting, no training, just you're working with them today.
Is this the future of RM?
Didn't do me any harm and I'm still here today. Although the pay aspect was abit unfair
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A2B
- Posts: 2025
- Joined: 25 Feb 2009, 19:34
- Gender: Male
Re: 100% privatised one day, agency workers in the next
Been happening for a year or so in our area, thrown into the job without training and they wonder why there's such a high turnover of staff.Hitcher wrote:No consulting, no training, just you're working with them today.
Is this the future of RM?
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Hitcher
- Posts: 1530
- Joined: 20 Sep 2009, 09:59
- Gender: Male
Re: 100% privatised one day, agency workers in the next
What annoys me is the fact that the WPC's aren't training them up, it's just left to the guys they're partnered with.
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Darren Bent
- Posts: 2150
- Joined: 05 Oct 2007, 15:38
- Gender: Male
- Location: Pride Park, Derby, DE24 8XL
Re: 100% privatised one day, agency workers in the next
There are some recently in our DO. We had 5 new rookies in the summer, and only one lovely lady still around and the rest quit. It seems to me they can't cope with rotating duty or monster size walks.
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A2B
- Posts: 2025
- Joined: 25 Feb 2009, 19:34
- Gender: Male
Re: 100% privatised one day, agency workers in the next
We don't have WPC's as nobody wants the jobHitcher wrote:What annoys me is the fact that the WPC's aren't training them up, it's just left to the guys they're partnered with.
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datasaint
- Posts: 1541
- Joined: 22 Sep 2008, 17:19
- Gender: Male
Re: 100% privatised one day, agency workers in the next
Nobody wants an extra £35 a week for essentially doing nothing?A2B wrote:We don't have WPC's as nobody wants the jobHitcher wrote:What annoys me is the fact that the WPC's aren't training them up, it's just left to the guys they're partnered with.
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A2B
- Posts: 2025
- Joined: 25 Feb 2009, 19:34
- Gender: Male
Re: 100% privatised one day, agency workers in the next
Nope, if you want to get into management you might as well go and be a manager, never going to work out well working with a colleague one day then having to retrain them the next because your manager says their performance isn't up to itnorm wrote:Nobody wants an extra £35 a week for essentially doing nothing?A2B wrote:We don't have WPC's as nobody wants the jobHitcher wrote:What annoys me is the fact that the WPC's aren't training them up, it's just left to the guys they're partnered with.
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salomon
- Posts: 52
- Joined: 28 Nov 2014, 21:18
- Gender: Female
Re: 100% privatised one day, agency workers in the next
The agency worker who appeared at our do last week was sent out with no hi viz and he was wearing scruffy joggers and a black hoody, I'm amazed no one stopped him pushing the trolley up the road!!
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BarnsleyLackey
- Posts: 349
- Joined: 24 Aug 2011, 16:07
- Gender: Male
Re: 100% privatised one day, agency workers in the next
A2B wrote:Nope, if you want to get into management you might as well go and be a manager, never going to work out well working with a colleague one day then having to retrain them the next because your manager says their performance isn't up to itnorm wrote:Nobody wants an extra £35 a week for essentially doing nothing?A2B wrote:We don't have WPC's as nobody wants the jobHitcher wrote:What annoys me is the fact that the WPC's aren't training them up, it's just left to the guys they're partnered with.
It sounds like you're putting too much thought into the training that's done. If you're told how to train someone, that's the model you use. If a lino is getting silly about the trainee's performance, then that's what it is: his performance. As soon as it was put through at ours, it was grabbed at as money for old rope.
On a side note - would making someone on a singleton duty a WPC be classed as ironic?