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Lapsing

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somjit
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Lapsing

Post by somjit »

How can it be fair if people who do overtime do not have to do lapsing They can earn overtime money while still in there duty time while others have to do lapsing
Sir Henry
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Re: Lapsing

Post by Sir Henry »

Flag it up to your rep.
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datasaint
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Re: Lapsing

Post by datasaint »

The OTers should be doing their lapsing as part of their duty time ...
tommyrep
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Re: Lapsing

Post by tommyrep »

somjit wrote:How can it be fair if people who do overtime do not have to do lapsing They can earn overtime money while still in there duty time while others have to do lapsing
Maybe because they do not complete their duty within duty time! Therefore incur ot regardless of lapsing. If you can complete lapsing work within your duty time there can be no complaint. OT payment within their normal duty time is a different matter and needs attention from your rep.
ThatsNotPlumb
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Re: Lapsing

Post by ThatsNotPlumb »

somjit wrote:How can it be fair if people who do overtime do not have to do lapsing They can earn overtime money while still in there duty time while others have to do lapsing
Unless I've misunderstood the question/situation -

Are you talking about why do people who come in on say their day off on overtime not have to do the lapsing associated with the duty they are on?

If that is the question/situation it's simple, because they're on overtime. If they've it agreed with a manager they can basically come in and do whatever amount of overtime they want. They shouldn't be getting paid the hours associated with the duty though in they're entirety if they aren't doing the lapsing, they should just be signing the sheet as they leave.
Postie45
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Re: Lapsing

Post by Postie45 »

I think hes talking about people who do OT covering walks after their duties. They will take out their own duty plus their OT, once they have completed their own duty (with plenty of time to spare in their duty time) they will go straight to their OT and not return to the office first to get any lapsing that they should be doing if they have time left.
postslippete
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Re: Lapsing

Post by postslippete »

Maybe, the managers who want to encourage staff to work their day off can only do so if they tell them that they don't need to lapse as well??
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Acca Dacca
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Re: Lapsing

Post by Acca Dacca »

Ghost overtime was supposed to be put to an end. No one should be getting paid twice within their contracted hours.
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
CharlesSpooner
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Re: Lapsing

Post by CharlesSpooner »

somjit wrote:How can it be fair if people who do overtime do not have to do lapsing They can earn overtime money while still in there duty time while others have to do lapsing
OPG agrees to cover a walk on OT
Manager is relieved
OPG tells manager he won't cover the walk if he has to do lapsing
Manager can fail walk or agree to OPG's demands

It's not fair but it's a no-brainer if you're a lino. The only solution is to kick up a stink about it via your rep or send an email to the area manager asking for clarification on the matter :dance DIMs tend not to like it when staff do that :Boo hoo!