second jobs...

[chillout1571]

Hello,

I have kept my previous job on a zero hour basis and I do one or two shifts a month. I haven't told the royal mail as there didn't seem any reason to. It is also always on a sunday, so never clashes.

One of my colleagues spotted me working today.

I just wondered if there was any problem with having a second job?

It isn't in direct competition with the royal mail and its on a casual basis.

Thanks

[Hitcher]

Pretty sure it's in the contract to tell them.

[GT85]

No problem having one but as above pretty sure you have to tell them.

[chillout1571]

Okay, Thanks for the Info. I shall inform them when I am next in.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Okay, Thanks for the Info. I shall inform them when I am next in.

Yep the advice hasn't changed since the last time you asked the relevant part of your contract is:

'Your employment with Royal Mail is a part time occupation. You must not engage in any other employment such that you would be unable to meet your contractual obligations to Royal Mail. Further, any additional hours of work you may perform for another employee aggregated with those that you perform under this contract must not exceed the limits that apply under the Working Time Regulations 1998 or any agreements that relate to working time. You must not be involved in or have an interest in the activities of any organisation whose business is in competition with that of Royal Mail or any of its business units or subsidiaries and must advise Royal Mail of any other employment which you hold or intend to take.'

[yubin282]

why doesn't the business just give us full-time contracts and we wouldn't have to take second jobs

[aiden01]

why doesn't the business just give us full-time contracts and we wouldn't have to take second jobs

no chance they want everyone pt

[toomuchcoke]

why doesn't the business just give us full-time contracts and we wouldn't have to take second jobs

no chance they want everyone pt

Though you'd have to wonder why, as pt's are not necessarily cheaper to employ. Yes, there's a small saving in employer's NI contributions but a pair of people on 19.5 hour contracts would require twice as much uniform, twice as many PDAs etc and use up more of management's time ...

[Newbie001]

why doesn't the business just give us full-time contracts and we wouldn't have to take second jobs

no chance they want everyone pt

Though you'd have to wonder why, as pt's are not necessarily cheaper to employ. Yes, there's a small saving in employer's NI contributions but a pair of people on 19.5 hour contracts would require twice as much uniform, twice as many PDAs etc and use up more of management's time ...

Management time/training ...... zero.
Uniform ............. peanuts.
PDA's ........ do they even have any value.
Sick pay ........... half a salary...... plus how many new starts even last a year now.
Holidays ............. half a salary.

Most large firms don't give a **** about there employees, its all about short term gains.

[Judgee]

why doesn't the business just give us full-time contracts and we wouldn't have to take second jobs

no chance they want everyone pt

Though you'd have to wonder why, as pt's are not necessarily cheaper to employ. Yes, there's a small saving in employer's NI contributions but a pair of people on 19.5 hour contracts would require twice as much uniform, twice as many PDAs etc and use up more of management's time ...

They would be replacing two full timers and making up their hours up in overtime to fill the shortfall so they'd still spend the same on uniform etc. But they would save in holiday and sick pay and would only have to pay for the hours worked. Unlike when a few lucky full time posties still get to finish early and are still being paid for a full day.

Rm would save a fortune with nothing but part timers. Wouldn't be surprise if we all walked in after the five year grace period from the privatisation to find we all have spanking new part time contracts to sign!

[Bahia Feliz]

Yep the advice hasn't changed since the last time you asked

When did he last ask?

[GT85]

20th August
http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 30#p706730

[Dorset Plodder]

Years ago we had a Postie sacked because he was delivering parcels (which he did as a separate job) while he was delivering his Royal Mail stuff!

Got to admire the guys Brass Neck, although you'd have thought he would have got caught out soon than later?

[Henrietta]

I really do not see the point of telling RM what you do outside of contracted work hours. If it doesn't interfere with their hours etc..... isn't it called recreational time or free time?..... What I choose to do in my time that does not affect RM isn't any of their concern...
If people choose a second income that is their choice????.
We don't know what managers do/don't do with their time so why should they know about us?.
If it's tax we are talking about again that is a separate issue if you are taxed for both jobs then isn't that legal with no pressing issues?.

[chillout1571]

I really do not see the point of telling RM what you do outside of contracted work hours. If it doesn't interfere with their hours etc..... isn't it called recreational time or free time?..... What I choose to do in my time that does not affect RM isn't any of their concern...
If people choose a second income that is their choice????.
We don't know what managers do/don't do with their time so why should they know about us?.
If it's tax we are talking about again that is a separate issue if you are taxed for both jobs then isn't that legal with no pressing issues?.

Well that is kind of what I thought. I mean, its two days a month, completely unrelated. Not in competition with RM. I'm taxed on my wage for both jobs. When I was interviewed, they asked me if I would have a second job. I said possibly, I may stay at my current job a day or so a week. He didn't react and I got the job. However it does appear, the official thing to do is disclose the second job. They also are giving me grief about my pre booked holiday. I told them in the interview, I emailed them before I started, I gave him the details on my first day and now they are being pretty weird about it all. Sigh.Lol.