Taking vans home overnight...

[26 may 1999]

We have been taking our vans home for over a year due to limited parking space at our office...

We have now been told that we have two weeks notice and vans will no longer be taken home due to spiralling fuel costs.

We have also been told this is national.

Can anybody shed some light on this?

Ta.

[Rumple]

Same in our office.

[Judgee]

Yup our orifice too so I guess it's widespread!

[spen]

Spiralling fuel cost, lmao, what did they think was gonna happen when they dreamed up the idea of van sharing

[CLINTEASTWOOD]

Thought there was a national agreement about taking vans home?

[IcanthelpthewayIam]

Thought there was a national agreement about taking vans home?

There an agreement which covers the process on how to take one home but it's not an agreement that gives you the right to do it, it's all down to the local dom and basically the number of parking spaces at the office, he can rescind it at any time if he wants, it's not a national cancellation but I am aware of several areas doing it to try and save fuel

[chrisj]

https://www.gov.uk/tax-company-benefits ... mpany-cars" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

What is the tax implication/s of allowing posties to take vans home? We now a situation where some are allowed and others are not. And there is no real good justification for those that are allowed and those denied - just on duties which happens to be those of the favourites or the hard nuts.

Allowing some posties to use the van to commute to and from work in my view can be classed as 'personal use' because other posties have to pay for their own fuel to get to work and go home from work.

I think Royal is probably breaking the law; in addition, they are operating a discriminatory policy of subsidising some employee's travel cost.

How much is the average cost of fuel for 8 miles a day? At least £2.00 (at a guess) * 4days * 45weeks - rough estimate. Thank you very much (bigger than our pay rise?)

[IcanthelpthewayIam]

https://www.gov.uk/tax-company-benefits ... mpany-cars

What is the tax implication/s of allowing posties to take vans home? We now a situation where some are allowed and others are not. And there is no real good justification for those that are allowed and those denied - just on duties which happens to be those of the favourites or the hard nuts.

Allowing some posties to use the van to commute to and from work in my view can be classed as 'personal use' because other posties have to pay for their own fuel to get to work and go home from work.

I think Royal is probably breaking the law; in addition, they are operating a discriminatory policy of subsidising some employee's travel cost.

How much is the average cost of fuel for 8 miles a day? At least £2.00 (at a guess) * 4days * 45weeks - rough estimate. Thank you very much (bigger than our pay rise?)

No tax implications at all. personal use is forbidden. commuting is not classed as personal use by the taxman, hence no tax implications

[TrueBlueTerrier]

https://www.gov.uk/tax-company-benefits ... mpany-cars

Where does this seat in terms of tax implication?

Last January I said

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/vans/vans-info.pdf

When is there a tax charge on a
company van?
Employees pay tax on a company van if they or a member of
their family or household make private use of it. If the
employee has the van mainly for work journeys (for example,
delivering goods or making calls to customers), and the only
private use is commuting, there is no tax to pay.

But the link says something different now. Guess the rules have changed.

it now says

As an employer providing company vans and fuel to your employees, you have certain National Insurance and reporting obligations.
What’s included

This includes any van used for:

business journeys
commuting
private journeys

[chrisj]

I read somewhere that George Osborne is toughening up the law.

Whichever way we look at it, it is discriminatory and it is clearly a fringe benefit for some and not others.

[krussel]

Is it worth it.

A red van stuck on your DRIVE if you have one and your own car out in the road. Wake up in the morning come out and the first thing you see is a red van.

[IcanthelpthewayIam]

Is it worth it.

A red van stuck on your DRIVE if you have one and your own car out in the road. Wake up in the morning come out and the first thing you see is a red van.

Why put the van on the drive? put it on the road instead

[Richard007]

We had to sign To agree That Under no circumstances would we take van home at all even if passing home & if we were ever caught we would be conduct code so now if having a crafty break we sneak off to a mates house for a break as we haven't had to sign a stupid piece of paper about doing that yet but it's only a matter of time

[aiden01]

Spiralling fuel cost, lmao, what did they think was gonna happen when they dreamed up the idea of van sharing

fuel costs have dropped to what I believe a 7 year low

[Lounge Lizard]

When shared vans replaced bicycles overnight retention was essential because there simply wasn't space to park all the extra vans at many Delivery Offices.
So what would happen if overnight retention ended ?