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standards
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peedofpostie
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standards
what is standard for one min prep test , is it into clear frame , what is full prep rate standard , can boss watch you prep and record rate without you knowing , been told min test 35 into clear frame and full prep rate of 28 per min double wing frame double slots ,i thought these were high
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halfull
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Re: standards
i pretty sure its 25 into an empty frame & they cannot check for accuracy! Plus even if you fail it there is nothing they can do other than re-train you lol, it really is a waste of time.peedofpostie wrote:what is standard for one min prep test , is it into clear frame , what is full prep rate standard , can boss watch you prep and record rate without you knowing , been told min test 35 into clear frame and full prep rate of 28 per min double wing frame double slots ,i thought these were high
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peedofpostie
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Re: standards
I thought it was 31 ,25 sounds better lol could do with some facts on this matterhalfull wrote:i pretty sure its 25 into an empty frame & they cannot check for accuracy! Plus even if you fail it there is nothing they can do other than re-train you lol, it really is a waste of time.peedofpostie wrote:what is standard for one min prep test , is it into clear frame , what is full prep rate standard , can boss watch you prep and record rate without you knowing , been told min test 35 into clear frame and full prep rate of 28 per min double wing frame double slots ,i thought these were high
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celerycelery
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Re: standards
It is 25 and that is the only figure in any agreement. Some bosses will tell anyone that bothers to listen its now 31 with the introduction of CSS mail but that's a load of rubbish.
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coxie
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Re: standards
Don't think frames with double slots count either, there's no agreed rate on double slots
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steve1873
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Re: standards
I think the biggest issue (I work in same office) is the fact the DOM carried out the tests without informing the people involved and then afterwards tried to get them to sign a sheet to confirm they had failed the "test".
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halfull
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Re: standards
grievance should be put in for this. You can request for your rep to be present at these prep tests, but like i said, they are total waste of time in terms of disciplinary action.steve1873 wrote:I think the biggest issue (I work in same office) is the fact the DOM carried out the tests without informing the people involved and then afterwards tried to get them to sign a sheet to confirm they had failed the "test".
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ninja
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Re: standards
Your IPS 1 minute prep test depends on the no of boxes
DATA SHEET FOR COMPILING WORK AREA NOTICES
Activity.........Equipment Check Rate
Letters
Number per minute
48 box.....34
56 box.....31
63 box.....35
64 box.....31
Packet Sorting...DBF...18
Flat Sorting
48 box Impact....28
56 Box Impact....27
64 Box Impact....26
Flats.......Handstamp..20
Packets...Handstamp..16
Preparation..RM 2000..25 letters
48 box letter............34 letters
Wing Prep...............25 letters
West Bradford..........25 letters
NATIONAL AGREEMENT
ON THE INTRODUCTION OF
INDIVIDUAL PERFORMANCE STANDARDS
The following Framework Agreement has been reached between Royal Mail Service Delivery and the Communication Workers’ Union in respect of the introduction of Individual Performance Standards.
1. Background
Contained within the Joint Statement agreed in respect of the Standards of Conduct and Attendance and within the PBS Agreement, was a commitment by both parties that standards needed to be developed, understood and communicated to all employees.
To facilitate the introduction of the above, individual performance standards were developed, using National Databank values and a jointly-agreed process was trialled in twenty pilot offices.
The Pilot activity confirmed that:
• providing the agreed joint approach is taken, a one minute check of an individual’s performance can demonstrate to employees the standard expected in each work area (over a one minute period) and can serve to identify those employees who may need additional training and support to reach and sustain the required standard.
• providing the standards set take into account local circumstances (i.e. by confirming that the National Databank standards are applicable for local use), they were acceptable as a reasonable measure to ensure the above.
• all employees were able to reach the required standards, providing they were given the appropriate level of training and support.
• although both management and employees agree close supervision of fully trained employees can inhibit rather than enhance achievement of performance levels, there was a reluctance in many areas to actively promote this change of approach in the workplace, which needs to be addressed.
• it was counterproductive and contrary to the aims of the initiative to use individual performance standards or one minute spot checks as a disciplinary tool.
DATA SHEET FOR COMPILING WORK AREA NOTICES
Activity.........Equipment Check Rate
Letters
Number per minute
48 box.....34
56 box.....31
63 box.....35
64 box.....31
Packet Sorting...DBF...18
Flat Sorting
48 box Impact....28
56 Box Impact....27
64 Box Impact....26
Flats.......Handstamp..20
Packets...Handstamp..16
Preparation..RM 2000..25 letters
48 box letter............34 letters
Wing Prep...............25 letters
West Bradford..........25 letters
NATIONAL AGREEMENT
ON THE INTRODUCTION OF
INDIVIDUAL PERFORMANCE STANDARDS
The following Framework Agreement has been reached between Royal Mail Service Delivery and the Communication Workers’ Union in respect of the introduction of Individual Performance Standards.
1. Background
Contained within the Joint Statement agreed in respect of the Standards of Conduct and Attendance and within the PBS Agreement, was a commitment by both parties that standards needed to be developed, understood and communicated to all employees.
To facilitate the introduction of the above, individual performance standards were developed, using National Databank values and a jointly-agreed process was trialled in twenty pilot offices.
The Pilot activity confirmed that:
• providing the agreed joint approach is taken, a one minute check of an individual’s performance can demonstrate to employees the standard expected in each work area (over a one minute period) and can serve to identify those employees who may need additional training and support to reach and sustain the required standard.
• providing the standards set take into account local circumstances (i.e. by confirming that the National Databank standards are applicable for local use), they were acceptable as a reasonable measure to ensure the above.
• all employees were able to reach the required standards, providing they were given the appropriate level of training and support.
• although both management and employees agree close supervision of fully trained employees can inhibit rather than enhance achievement of performance levels, there was a reluctance in many areas to actively promote this change of approach in the workplace, which needs to be addressed.
• it was counterproductive and contrary to the aims of the initiative to use individual performance standards or one minute spot checks as a disciplinary tool.
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peedofpostie
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Re: standards
What my worry also is that the dom is inputting all wrong info into iwt and coming up with unrealistic dual prep rates , doms way out with the 35 quoted thanks for reply was nt sure if there was an updated agreement i missed
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ninja
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Re: standards
The DOM should have been trained on the IWT and also the Auto Forecast IWT. If he has then he will know that the IWT cannot be used for the purpose you state as it works on averages and can be out by about 26% if you do a physical count of the mail.
So if he wishes to continue with this approach then the use of the I/R framework should be applied.
So if he wishes to continue with this approach then the use of the I/R framework should be applied.
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POSTMAN
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Re: standards
Abuse of IWT: The thread above this one is a stickie...
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I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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peedofpostie
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- Location: alloa scotland
Re: standards
whats the walk seq rate of prep i s the 25 is for manual mailpeedofpostie wrote:What my worry also is that the dom is inputting all wrong info into iwt and coming up with unrealistic dual prep rates , doms way out with the 35 quoted thanks for reply was nt sure if there was an updated agreement i missed
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: standards
There is no agreed rate for sequenced mail, although there is a planning value - what it is will differ from office to office and is partly based on your BSI.
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