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goodwill has all but gone

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eastie
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goodwill has all but gone

Post by eastie »

Managers shafting the posties, no more favours I'm afraid.
Cutting hours to 5 hours a day and then having no staff to throw off your round.
Managers bundling up the lapsing and putting it in your van before you leave.
Manager ringing up a postie the afternoon his father dies in the morning and asks him if he is coming in tomorrow.
Managers manipulating figures , management throwing off walks and sorting packets and putting D2D's in frames anything to get the workforce out the door
encouraging no meal break and coming in early
Stella102
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Post by Stella102 »

lol not at our place we start and finish on time any issues from managers we throw in a grievance or b&h. Stick together with your colleagues you are much stronger if you do.
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Re: goodwill has all but gone

Post by IcanthelpthewayIam »

eastie wrote:Managers shafting the posties, no more favours I'm afraid.
Cutting hours to 5 hours a day and then having no staff to throw off your round.
Managers bundling up the lapsing and putting it in your van before you leave.
Manager ringing up a postie the afternoon his father dies in the morning and asks him if he is coming in tomorrow.
Managers manipulating figures , management throwing off walks and sorting packets and putting D2D's in frames anything to get the workforce out the door
encouraging no meal break and coming in early

What did your rep say about it when you asked him to put a stage 1 disagreement in about the managers doing postie work?
aiden01
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Post by aiden01 »

zx135 wrote:
eastie wrote:Managers shafting the posties, no more favours I'm afraid.
Cutting hours to 5 hours a day and then having no staff to throw off your round.
Managers bundling up the lapsing and putting it in your van before you leave.
Manager ringing up a postie the afternoon his father dies in the morning and asks him if he is coming in tomorrow.
Managers manipulating figures , management throwing off walks and sorting packets and putting D2D's in frames anything to get the workforce out the door
encouraging no meal break and coming in early

What did your rep say about it when you asked him to put a stage 1 disagreement in about the managers doing postie work?
working in a mc union do nothing and that includes area rep what is the next stage.
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I don't understand. Why hasn't 'goodwill' left the building long ago. I mean, when was the last time that Royal Mail did anything good for it's workers?
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Re: goodwill has all but gone

Post by IcanthelpthewayIam »

aiden01 wrote:
zx135 wrote:
eastie wrote:Managers shafting the posties, no more favours I'm afraid.
Cutting hours to 5 hours a day and then having no staff to throw off your round.
Managers bundling up the lapsing and putting it in your van before you leave.
Manager ringing up a postie the afternoon his father dies in the morning and asks him if he is coming in tomorrow.
Managers manipulating figures , management throwing off walks and sorting packets and putting D2D's in frames anything to get the workforce out the door
encouraging no meal break and coming in early

What did your rep say about it when you asked him to put a stage 1 disagreement in about the managers doing postie work?
working in a mc union do nothing and that includes area rep what is the next stage.
so your union rep has refused to put the stage 1 disagreement in? did you ask him then follow it up by writing him a letter?
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Post by slinder123 »

our area rep says you need the backing of your men to stop the managers doing postmans work the men did not back him because the manager said he would make them all come back and sign out on time end off story :cuppa
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Post by dblad »

future_RM wrote:
DirtyHarry wrote:I don't understand. Why hasn't 'goodwill' left the building long ago. I mean, when was the last time that Royal Mail did anything good for it's workers?
And yet you are all still here.

The reality is RM is a very good paying employer with a good pension scheme and good sick pay. Posties that bitch like to think back to the good old days where they were back home by 11:00. Times have changed, there is more competition and you are now expected to work the hours you are paid for. Get over it or get another job.
I've read your previous posts.
Your not really worth a reply. :so there
coxie
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Post by coxie »

future_RM wrote:
DirtyHarry wrote:I don't understand. Why hasn't 'goodwill' left the building long ago. I mean, when was the last time that Royal Mail did anything good for it's workers?
And yet you are all still here.

The reality is RM is a very good paying employer with a good pension scheme and good sick pay. Posties that bitch like to think back to the good old days where they were back home by 11:00. Times have changed, there is more competition and you are now expected to work the hours you are paid for. Get over it or get another job.

Because he makes valid points, people don't mind working until their finish time but many of us can't complete our ridiculous work load and would prefer not to be harassed about it.
eastie
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slinder123 wrote:our area rep says you need the backing of your men to stop the managers doing postmans work the men did not back him because the manager said he would make them all come back and sign out on time end off story :cuppa
We are doing that anyway, its just that its making the office look more efficient than it actually is for them to lapse even more rounds
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Re: goodwill has all but gone

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future_RM wrote:
DirtyHarry wrote:I don't understand. Why hasn't 'goodwill' left the building long ago. I mean, when was the last time that Royal Mail did anything good for it's workers?
And yet you are all still here.

The reality is RM is a very good paying employer with a good pension scheme and good sick pay. Posties that bitch like to think back to the good old days where they were back home by 11:00. Times have changed, there is more competition and you are now expected to work the hours you are paid for. Get over it or get another job.
Get another job? I wish to God that I could. Must be great living in your bubble where it's always the 1960s/70s,and jobs are plentiful, and working for Royal Mail isn't the painful pile of utter dog s**t that it unfortunately is now.
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Post by pants123 »

future_RM wrote:
DirtyHarry wrote:
future_RM wrote:
DirtyHarry wrote:I don't understand. Why hasn't 'goodwill' left the building long ago. I mean, when was the last time that Royal Mail did anything good for it's workers?
And yet you are all still here.

The reality is RM is a very good paying employer with a good pension scheme and good sick pay. Posties that bitch like to think back to the good old days where they were back home by 11:00. Times have changed, there is more competition and you are now expected to work the hours you are paid for. Get over it or get another job.
Get another job? I wish to God that I could. Must be great living in your bubble where it's always the 1960s/70s,and jobs are plentiful, and working for Royal Mail isn't the painful pile of utter dog s**t that it unfortunately is now.
So how many jobs have you applied for in the last 12 months, how many interviews have you attended.

At a guess I would say zero, you look at the minimum wage that other unskilled jobs pay, crap pension and no sick pay and you decide to stay where you are in your cushy little job.

:cuppa


I see your a manager, im not sure if you know this, but there is another manager cull, 2000 more managers to be laid off,, hope its not you..
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Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

future_RM wrote:
DirtyHarry wrote:
future_RM wrote:
DirtyHarry wrote:I don't understand. Why hasn't 'goodwill' left the building long ago. I mean, when was the last time that Royal Mail did anything good for it's workers?
And yet you are all still here.

The reality is RM is a very good paying employer with a good pension scheme and good sick pay. Posties that bitch like to think back to the good old days where they were back home by 11:00. Times have changed, there is more competition and you are now expected to work the hours you are paid for. Get over it or get another job.
Get another job? I wish to God that I could. Must be great living in your bubble where it's always the 1960s/70s,and jobs are plentiful, and working for Royal Mail isn't the painful pile of utter dog s**t that it unfortunately is now.
So how many jobs have you applied for in the last 12 months, how many interviews have you attended.

At a guess I would say zero, you look at the minimum wage that other unskilled jobs pay, crap pension and no sick pay and you decide to stay where you are in your cushy little job.

:cuppa

Showing great motivational skills there Mr Future. Perhaps you should see if you could get dignitas onto your CV, perhaps they'll feel better knowing there is a better option than death.
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future_RM wrote:
DirtyHarry wrote:I don't understand. Why hasn't 'goodwill' left the building long ago. I mean, when was the last time that Royal Mail did anything good for it's workers?
And yet you are all still here.

The reality is RM is a very good paying employer with a good pension scheme and good sick pay. Posties that bitch like to think back to the good old days where they were back home by 11:00. Times have changed, there is more competition and you are now expected to work the hours you are paid for. Get over it or get another job.
LESS now Whistl have thrown their legs in the air
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Post by Jack Rouse »

eastie wrote:Managers shafting the posties, no more favours I'm afraid. Nothing Changes
Cutting hours to 5 hours a day and then having no staff to throw off your round.So throw your own walk off, then tell the manager you wont be able to complete because of the time.
Managers bundling up the lapsing and putting it in your van before you leave.a) Pretend you didn't see it. b) don't deliver it if it means going over, c) Give it back to the manager telling him you wont have time to deliver it.
Manager ringing up a postie the afternoon his father dies in the morning and asks him if he is coming in tomorrow. Put in a B&H complaint, better still block his number
Managers manipulating figures , management throwing off walks and sorting packets and putting D2D's in frames anything to get the workforce out the door
encouraging no meal break and coming in early. Manipulation of figures isn't your problem, complain to the Rep about managers doing posties work, if he does nothing get on to area to remove him and vote a bloke in who will, as for meal breaks, if you have proof this, the manager is breaking the law, you are by law entitled to breaks, get at least one witness to every conversation, get other colleagues to doughnut the manager when he is talking to anyone and voices are raised, it's done wonders in our office, they are very careful what they ask, and what they tell you to do now.