perils of dropping out of the union.

[daveyeff]

I have nothing against anyone who does drop out, they have their reasons. a few at ours have dropped out after recent changes. they were angry with the way our new shifts were handled....fair enough. But it can have its drawbacks. a good example is a guy at ours, who has had an accident on duty, breaking his collarbone in the process. the doctor has give him a note declaring unfit for work for 8 weeks. the Dom has told him he must go into work for an hour a day stating it will be detrimental to the business (what about his health)...he is being picked up and dropped off at his home afterwards. he is sitting in the managers office doing kill offs with one hand and his other in a sling. personally I think its a disgrace the way he is being treated. but someone has said well he's not in the union. so this could mean a precedent is being set. ie. he has the same rights and conditions as union members, so if management are doing it to him, then they can do it to any of us.!!

[Judgee]

He has the same rights yes but no representation as that is why we pay our union fees.

The union is weak and getting weaker by the year but it's still better to be in a crap union than in no union, as I guess this guy is finding out right now!

If they are doing this to him yes they can do it to any of you. But union members will at least have someone by their side advising them just exactly what management can and can't make them do!

[daveyeff]

totally agree judgee he cant have representation as he doesn't pay the 350 a week. but it shows what they've got in mind for us in future

[terry2972]

If the doctor has given him a note for 8 weeks why did he go in I know I wouldn't have Will his Boss pay compensation if he aggravates the injury very strange

[daveyeff]

If the doctor has given him a note for 8 weeks why did he go in I know I wouldn't have Will his Boss pay compensation if he aggravates the injury very strange

he's s**t scared they can peddle him now that he's out of the union......but I believe management are taking advantage the fact they can intimidate non-union members.

[POSTMAN]

Maybe i'm getting old,maybe i'm getting a bit soft,or maybe i'm just being me,but there is no f***ing way that would happen to anyone in my office,union member or not!!

We need a name and shame wanky management,colleagues and DO thread.

[Hitcher]

Nothing stopping him rejoining though.

[Altrider]

If he has been signed off sick for 8 weeks he should legally not be in the workplace at all. He needs to check with CAB who will freely advice. If you are signed off sick you are signed off sick - it is not a grey area.

[dave0876]

I think I'm right in saying this if a doctor has signed him off on the sick then he is legally not able to work until the sick note expires or his doctor signs him fit for work

http://www.nhs.uk/chq/Pages/2559.aspx?C ... oryID=1903" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Above link pretty much covers it.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

I think I'm right in saying this if a doctor has signed him off on the sick then he is legally not able to work until the sick note expires or his doctor signs him fit for work

http://www.nhs.uk/chq/Pages/2559.aspx?C ... oryID=1903" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Above link pretty much covers it.

No that link says he can go back before the note runs out as long as the employer agrees. I guess even though he felt pressured by turning up he has tacitly agreed.

However, I wonder if the Manager has covered his arse and had the individual risk assessed by OH Assist, if he hasn't and another accident happens, or his injury is exacerbated then he will have a lot of explaining to do.

As said before it doesn't matter if the bloke is in the Union or not, the managers shouldn't know who is and who isn't, and all employees should be treated equally by the employer.

[2pints]

Union or not i would have told him to get stuffed!

[postslippete]

It doesn't matter what you think dave, it matters what he thinks....



Union or not

If he has a valid sick note then he must surely know that he doesn't have to come in to work anything at all!!

If he wants to work a few hours a day pottering about the office more fool him

[daveyeff]

seen him today, he looks as sick as f**k. he's in a canny bit pain as well. I told him he shouldn't be there. he said, he went back to office after coming out of A&E and there was another manager there who told him he would have to come into work on 'very light duties' because it would be detrimental to the business!!.....what a load of shite. he's being targeted because he now has no back up. he says ATOS are giving him ring tomorrow.......damned disgrace.

[POSTMAN]

To be fair,this is a walk out job.

[aiden01]

To be fair,this is a walk out job.

totally agree have the office got the ball,s to do it.