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LINE MANAGERS QUESTIONING
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dodgyinlaws
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LINE MANAGERS QUESTIONING
When a line manager questions me, do i have to answer him? He has been asking me on an almost daily business if i have signed out, even though i do everytime.
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: LINE MANAGERS QUESTIONING
If its a reasonable question - Yes.dodgyinlaws wrote:When a line manager questions me, do i have to answer him? He has been asking me on an almost daily business if i have signed out, even though i do everytime.
If its not - No - it then may fall into bullying and harrasing.
You'll need to speak to your local rep or call the B&H helpine if you tink you are being bullied. 0800 58 74 7777
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dodgyinlaws
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Re: LINE MANAGERS QUESTIONING
When he asks me what my forecast is when i go beyond my finishing time and claiming overtime what is an acceptable reply, will "total workload" be an acceptable reply?TrueBlueTerrier wrote:If its a reasonable question - Yes.dodgyinlaws wrote:When a line manager questions me, do i have to answer him? He has been asking me on an almost daily business if i have signed out, even though i do everytime.
If its not - No - it then may fall into bullying and harrasing.
You'll need to speak to your local rep or call the B&H helpine if you tink you are being bullied. 0800 58 74 7777
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IcanthelpthewayIam
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Re: LINE MANAGERS QUESTIONING
If it's true but obviously it's not, why don't you just tell him what you think it's actually going to be?dodgyinlaws wrote:When he asks me what my forecast is when i go beyond my finishing time and claiming overtime what is an acceptable reply, will "total workload" be an acceptable reply?TrueBlueTerrier wrote:If its a reasonable question - Yes.dodgyinlaws wrote:When a line manager questions me, do i have to answer him? He has been asking me on an almost daily business if i have signed out, even though i do everytime.
If its not - No - it then may fall into bullying and harrasing.
You'll need to speak to your local rep or call the B&H helpine if you tink you are being bullied. 0800 58 74 7777
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: LINE MANAGERS QUESTIONING
If it makes sense yes. If not - No.
It is a reasonable question to ask how far it will take you over, but it can be asked in an unreasonable manner.
I'll be honest the list of reasonable questions and reasonable responses (and the opposite) is inexhaustible, its down to your perception and their approach.
It is a reasonable question to ask how far it will take you over, but it can be asked in an unreasonable manner.
I'll be honest the list of reasonable questions and reasonable responses (and the opposite) is inexhaustible, its down to your perception and their approach.
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dodgyinlaws
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Re: LINE MANAGERS QUESTIONING
I have given him forecasts in the past, his reply is "why" i thought it was done on trust.zx135 wrote:If it's true but obviously it's not, why don't you just tell him what you think it's actually going to be?dodgyinlaws wrote:When he asks me what my forecast is when i go beyond my finishing time and claiming overtime what is an acceptable reply, will "total workload" be an acceptable reply?TrueBlueTerrier wrote:If its a reasonable question - Yes.dodgyinlaws wrote:When a line manager questions me, do i have to answer him? He has been asking me on an almost daily business if i have signed out, even though i do everytime.
If its not - No - it then may fall into bullying and harrasing.
You'll need to speak to your local rep or call the B&H helpine if you tink you are being bullied. 0800 58 74 7777
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IcanthelpthewayIam
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Re: LINE MANAGERS QUESTIONING
dodgyinlaws wrote:I have given him forecasts in the past, his reply is "why" i thought it was done on trust.zx135 wrote:If it's true but obviously it's not, why don't you just tell him what you think it's actually going to be?dodgyinlaws wrote:When he asks me what my forecast is when i go beyond my finishing time and claiming overtime what is an acceptable reply, will "total workload" be an acceptable reply?TrueBlueTerrier wrote:If its a reasonable question - Yes.dodgyinlaws wrote:When a line manager questions me, do i have to answer him? He has been asking me on an almost daily business if i have signed out, even though i do everytime.
If its not - No - it then may fall into bullying and harrasing.
You'll need to speak to your local rep or call the B&H helpine if you tink you are being bullied. 0800 58 74 7777
Asking your reasoning on why you forecast a particular amount is a perfectly reasonable question, it's his job to try and fix any issues your having so asking you to explaining any work load issues is reasonable
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dodgyinlaws
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Re: LINE MANAGERS QUESTIONING
zx135 wrote:dodgyinlaws wrote:I have given him forecasts in the past, his reply is "why" i thought it was done on trust.zx135 wrote:If it's true but obviously it's not, why don't you just tell him what you think it's actually going to be?dodgyinlaws wrote:When he asks me what my forecast is when i go beyond my finishing time and claiming overtime what is an acceptable reply, will "total workload" be an acceptable reply?TrueBlueTerrier wrote:If its a reasonable question - Yes.dodgyinlaws wrote:When a line manager questions me, do i have to answer him? He has been asking me on an almost daily business if i have signed out, even though i do everytime.
If its not - No - it then may fall into bullying and harrasing.
You'll need to speak to your local rep or call the B&H helpine if you tink you are being bullied. 0800 58 74 7777
Asking your reasoning on why you forecast a particular amount is a perfectly reasonable question, it's his job to try and fix any issues your having so asking you to
explaining any work load issues is reasonable
I throw a full walk in on one section of the office for a part timer, i then go on my own walk on another section to which this manager is responsible for, he won't fix any issues because it will mean treading on the toes of the other line manager. He "spied" on me on my walk on friday, i told my union rep about this and the constant questioning. The union rep asked him on monday if he had any issues with my duty, he replied "no" .
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IcanthelpthewayIam
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Re: LINE MANAGERS QUESTIONING
just because you dont think he wont fix the issues doesnt mean he is not going to do his job, end of the day it is actually his job to ask questions on why you are not completing, if you are being singled out then you may have a case for claiming he is bullying you but everything you have so far posted actually sounds like a manager actually doing his job, managers are supposed to monitor posties on walks, they are supposed to question over time claims, they are supposed to make sure everyone is signing in and out, he is not doing anything wrong by doing these things... unless he is only doing it to youdodgyinlaws wrote:zx135 wrote:dodgyinlaws wrote:I have given him forecasts in the past, his reply is "why" i thought it was done on trust.zx135 wrote:If it's true but obviously it's not, why don't you just tell him what you think it's actually going to be?dodgyinlaws wrote:When he asks me what my forecast is when i go beyond my finishing time and claiming overtime what is an acceptable reply, will "total workload" be an acceptable reply?TrueBlueTerrier wrote:If its a reasonable question - Yes.dodgyinlaws wrote:When a line manager questions me, do i have to answer him? He has been asking me on an almost daily business if i have signed out, even though i do everytime.
If its not - No - it then may fall into bullying and harrasing.
You'll need to speak to your local rep or call the B&H helpine if you tink you are being bullied. 0800 58 74 7777
Asking your reasoning on why you forecast a particular amount is a perfectly reasonable question, it's his job to try and fix any issues your having so asking you to explaining any work load issues is reasonable
I throw a full walk in on one section of the office for a part timer, i then go on my own walk on another section to which this manager is responsible for, he won't fix any issues because it will mean treading on the toes of the other line manager. He "spied" on me on my walk on friday, i told my union rep about this and the constant questioning. The union rep asked him on monday if he had any issues with my duty, he replied "no" .
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Brainache
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Re: LINE MANAGERS QUESTIONING
Print out a pocket sized piece of card with all the different answers you have to give him. Whenever he asks you again, look down the list for the most appropriate answer. It saves `thinking on the hoof` and what hes really trying to do is catch you out on your answer even though you have done nothing wrong. On busy days make a note of times - start prep, finish prep, unblock van, queue for specials etc.
When he asks you his questions refer to your info.
When he asks you his questions refer to your info.
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bogstandard
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Re: LINE MANAGERS QUESTIONING
is your forcast not "based on the information i have at the moment"dodgyinlaws wrote:I have given him forecasts in the past, his reply is "why" i thought it was done on trust.zx135 wrote:If it's true but obviously it's not, why don't you just tell him what you think it's actually going to be?dodgyinlaws wrote:When he asks me what my forecast is when i go beyond my finishing time and claiming overtime what is an acceptable reply, will "total workload" be an acceptable reply?TrueBlueTerrier wrote:If its a reasonable question - Yes.dodgyinlaws wrote:When a line manager questions me, do i have to answer him? He has been asking me on an almost daily business if i have signed out, even though i do everytime.
If its not - No - it then may fall into bullying and harrasing.
You'll need to speak to your local rep or call the B&H helpine if you tink you are being bullied. 0800 58 74 7777
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thehobbit
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Re: LINE MANAGERS QUESTIONING
I write as much as I can in a diary but the card is a good idea as all the managers do is continuously quote daily traffic figures and say why cant you get done, amazingly every time I say I cant finish on time the figures are down,Brains wrote:Print out a pocket sized piece of card with all the different answers you have to give him. Whenever he asks you again, look down the list for the most appropriate answer. It saves `thinking on the hoof` and what hes really trying to do is catch you out on your answer even though you have done nothing wrong. On busy days make a note of times - start prep, finish prep, unblock van, queue for specials etc.
When he asks you his questions refer to your info.
you will have to write your answers down it will really piss them off if I have something to refer to and they can see me doing it ,they can really annoy me , as they just do not listen and I try not to argue but it is very difficult to stay calm .
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dodgyinlaws
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Re: LINE MANAGERS QUESTIONING
Well after a rough two weeks of been constantly questioned, monitored, spied on my walk and the last last resort from this manager to try and harrass and bully me to not claim overtime, he seems to have took a step back knowing that he can't find fault with my preformance and ability to do the job. At the end of the day i have just been doing my job, he now will probably have to answer to the D.O.M as to why he could'nt get me to toe the line, not going to back down knowing i was doing nothing wrong.thehobbit wrote:I write as much as I can in a diary but the card is a good idea as all the managers do is continuously quote daily traffic figures and say why cant you get done, amazingly every time I say I cant finish on time the figures are down,Brains wrote:Print out a pocket sized piece of card with all the different answers you have to give him. Whenever he asks you again, look down the list for the most appropriate answer. It saves `thinking on the hoof` and what hes really trying to do is catch you out on your answer even though you have done nothing wrong. On busy days make a note of times - start prep, finish prep, unblock van, queue for specials etc.
When he asks you his questions refer to your info.
you will have to write your answers down it will really piss them off if I have something to refer to and they can see me doing it ,they can really annoy me , as they just do not listen and I try not to argue but it is very difficult to stay calm .