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REGARDING HCT TROLLEYS

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robert37uk
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REGARDING HCT TROLLEYS

Post by robert37uk »

hi
ive have a question for my fellow postman . in my office most postmen use a shared van to deliver the mail, but two of us still have to use hct trolleys to deliver our mail.
As in the past we have been told not to leave these trolleys unattended for more than 10 mins , but due to the fact on my delivery i have quite a few blocks of flats its impossible to leave my trolley for only ten mins and i have explained this to my manager but still nothing changes. my question is if this trolley is broken into or stolen while im away for more than 10 mins am i responsible for this ., thanks for any answers.
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Post by arnold cheshire »

robert37uk wrote:hi
ive have a question for my fellow postman . in my office most postmen use a shared van to deliver the mail, but two of us still have to use hct trolleys to deliver our mail.
As in the past we have been told not to leave these trolleys unattended for more than 10 mins , but due to the fact on my delivery i have quite a few blocks of flats its impossible to leave my trolley for only ten mins and i have explained this to my manager but still nothing changes. my question is if this trolley is broken into or stolen while im away for more than 10 mins am i responsible for this ., thanks for any answers.
we use a van for delivering right outside the office
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Post by IcanthelpthewayIam »

robert37uk wrote:hi
ive have a question for my fellow postman . in my office most postmen use a shared van to deliver the mail, but two of us still have to use hct trolleys to deliver our mail.
As in the past we have been told not to leave these trolleys unattended for more than 10 mins , but due to the fact on my delivery i have quite a few blocks of flats its impossible to leave my trolley for only ten mins and i have explained this to my manager but still nothing changes. my question is if this trolley is broken into or stolen while im away for more than 10 mins am i responsible for this ., thanks for any answers.

Yes as you were told only to leave it for 10 min
Mezza
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Post by Mezza »

I use an HCT for my delivery and was stopped by IB outside an office block i deliver to.
There are so many companies in the block to deliver to with numerous SD and RD items everyday that a 10 minute limit is impossible.

The IB asked why i had been away from my HCT for so long and i explained the reasons above.
Whilst the lids on my HCT were locked i hadn't used a padlock to prevent it from being stolen completely and this was a major issue according to IB.
I explained to them that i had informed my DOM of all this and the lack of a padlock.

They visited my DOM and told him of the need to ensure security of the HCT on deliveries like this.

That was all over a year ago - still nothing has been done.

I would say if you've made your manager aware and are able to lock your HCT up (lids securely locked and also a padlock on a wheel type of thing) then there is nothing for you to worry about.
You could protect yourself by asking your manager for written confirmation that you have made him aware of the issues you mention i guess, but he should have completed a risk assessment that should highlight these issues.
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Post by fishtank »

Why is it impossible to leave your trolley for less than 10 minutes?
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robert37uk
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Post by robert37uk »

its impossible because one of the blocks i deliver to has 18 floors in it, it was postmen in our office that sorted these deliveries out.

if i put this in writing to the manager as ive already spoken to him about it will i then be covered if anything ever happens
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robert37uk wrote:its impossible because one of the blocks i deliver to has 18 floors in it, it was postmen in our office that sorted these deliveries out.

if i put this in writing to the manager as ive already spoken to him about it will i then be covered if anything ever happens
will the HCT fit in the lift ?
robert37uk
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Post by robert37uk »

it might if i stand it upwards but i wont be able to get it down the stairs lol :Very Happy
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Post by arnold cheshire »

robert37uk wrote:it might if i stand it upwards but i wont be able to get it down the stairs lol :Very Happy
so it doesnt fit in lift i didnt mention stairs
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Post by Hitcher »

10mins? In our office they're basically used like vans where a complete bag can be done from each stop.
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Hitcher wrote:10mins? In our office they're basically used like vans where a complete bag can be done from each stop.
what mpg do they get ?
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Post by motherhubbard »

Hitcher wrote:10mins? In our office they're basically used like vans where a complete bag can be done from each stop.
I really don't understand why people do this.
The trolley is meant to be pushed from delivery point to delivery point except where blocks of flats or terrain prevent this.
This keeps the mail secure and the weight off the body.
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robert37uk wrote:its impossible because one of the blocks i deliver to has 18 floors in it, it was postmen in our office that sorted these deliveries out.

if i put this in writing to the manager as ive already spoken to him about it will i then be covered if anything ever happens

Again no you won't be covered as he had told you specifically not to leave it for more than 10 minutes. What you need to do is ask him specifically how he wants you to deliver to these flats and follow that instruction then you will be covered
wotashitjob
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Post by wotashitjob »

Why 10 mins? Surely it only takes a minute to nab it
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