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terry2972
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Post by terry2972 »

Out of interest do all DO run on overtime? the one I work in seems to
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terry2972 wrote:Out of interest do all DO run on overtime? the one I work in seems to
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Re: overtime

Post by Harv12 »

were a number of staff down and been told they not allowed to employ more staff, but we got lads doing 2 duites on over time everyday for the last month or so, so they pay more on overtime than they would employing people, dont make sense,
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Re: overtime

Post by maisymoo04 »

Why they introducing work place coaches if no one takes on anymore ? Same in my place ????? :arrrghhh
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Re: overtime

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maisymoo04 wrote:Why they introducing work place coaches if no one takes on anymore ? Same in my place ????? :arrrghhh
They will eventually be doing more managerial work so RM can cut down on managers
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Re: overtime

Post by bustedflush »

OT is cheaper even if it's over 39 hours and attracts RM's 'premium' OT rate, which is a fraction of the 1.5 or 2x pay you'd receive in other industries. Remember it's cheaper for RM to have 2 OPG's doing 39hrs+19.5 OT than 3 OPG's working a flat 39. This is due to the NI/Employee tax system in the UK. This is why RM's OT rate is so low, as flexibility in tune with varying workload is necessary for the company to function at a profit. Both RM and the CWU acknowledge that.

Obviously if we were a different sector with value added like manufacturing the OT rates would be far higher therefore 3 employees in my example above would be far cheaper than 2 doing 19.5 hours OT.

It's not perfect, but there's no other practical way for RM to manage fluid workloads and varying attendance levels. It's evolved naturally over the years as is about as good as it gets. OT fills in the gaps, and as long as it's fairly offered to all volunteers and not favourites then I can't see anyone upsetting the status quo.
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Re: overtime

Post by A2B »

The problem i have with offices running on overtime is the service we give the customers, 5,6,7pm deliveries on a semi-regular basis because people are taking on multiple walks isn't good for our reputation.
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Re: overtime

Post by Lincox »

It,s no fckng good for their health either.
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Re: overtime

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how are people doing 2+ walks a day? I can barely manage 1! :crazy:
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Re: overtime

Post by Dorset Plodder »

We've recently had a cap put on our Overtime. No pressure Mon or Tues, only 30mins a day for the rest of the week. :shock: We're only a single Postie understrength and most have had all their holidays so it's not too bad. Although there's a cap on "Pressure" Overtime they still pay for "The Chosen Few" to open up and do early IPS and Double prepping.

Can produce the stupid situation that Posties can be paid "Early Overtime", go out on Delivery , Get back an hour early and still end up getting paid that Early Overtime. :crazy: On a Monday there's actually NO MAIL in the office when these idiots turn up, so they fill their time putting in Households (normally only for their mates though). On a Tuesday it's a similar situation as there's only a small amount of mail in early. And Management is looking for ways to work more efficiently! FFS :arrrghhh
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Re: overtime

Post by redneck »

Jpro747 wrote:how are people doing 2+ walks a day? I can barely manage 1! :crazy:
I guess the rounds are the easy ones which for 2 rounds means they are really getting 8 hours delivery pay for 6 hours work max. In our DO the difference between some rounds in delivery times is truly astounding (nothing to do with the speed of work either), and the experienced guys know exactly which ones to pick.
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Re: overtime

Post by A2B »

redneck wrote:
Jpro747 wrote:how are people doing 2+ walks a day? I can barely manage 1! :crazy:
I guess the rounds are the easy ones which for 2 rounds means they are really getting 8 hours delivery pay for 6 hours work max. In our DO the difference between some rounds in delivery times is truly astounding (nothing to do with the speed of work either), and the experienced guys know exactly which ones to pick.
They sometimes get the easier walks but will take whatever is going, the big difference is they will usually get a van for the overtime where the walks would be HCT duty