no huddles/wtll for a month-greivance?RESOLVED thanks tb :)

[spiderj]

Due to not wanting overtime I miss huddles and wtll

I feel bullied by exclusion.
Grievance?

[pod25]

We never have one

[Lounge Lizard]

Several years and never ever had them.

[postslippete]

not everyone seems to attend them, especially drivers who have 9 am specials to deliver and part-timers who are supposed to start their shift later.

So what is the point of watching videos and listening to a manager if not everyone is present???

[Lounge Lizard]

Watching videos and listening to a manager would probably be as exciting as the latest Courier dropping through the door
which is why those of us who never watch videos and listen to a manager annually, if he's not too busy, aren't the least concerned.

[IcanthelpthewayIam]

Due to not wanting overtime I miss huddles and wtll

I feel bullied by exclusion.
Grievance?

What is the exact reason for not getting them?

[spiderj]

Not starting early so I'm not in the office when they are happening

[Lounge Lizard]

Not starting early so I'm not in the office when they are happening

If it's that important to you maybe you should suggest to the DOM that he gives you your own personal huddle.

[borgpicard]

boring and pointless anyway, everyone comes out saying "what a waste of time", "feckin pointless", and " thats 20 minuets of my life i'll never get back".

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Due to not wanting overtime I miss huddles and wtll

I feel bullied by exclusion.
Grievance?

Possibly, however do they put the "minutes" of the sessions on notice boards. They do at our place and that might dilute the reasons for a grievance. However, your week should be planned with a 1/2 hour wtl session is that being policed by the rep on their meetings with management.

[spiderj]

Cheers tb
I know my week should be planned that way but its not,I reckon the minutes would be a good approach and to show I'm flexible I could read them/watch video on a Tuesday etc
I've asked management for clarification ....wonder how that'll go

[motherhubbard]

boring and pointless anyway, everyone comes out saying "what a waste of time", "feckin pointless", and " thats 20 minuets of my life i'll never get back".

The maths is very simple.
In an office of say 60 staff, if everyone has 30 minutes WTLL scheduled then that adds 30 hours/week to the indoor hours.
Take it away and you lose a job.
WTLL may be a lot of things, but it isn't pointless.

[wotashitjob]

Your missing this when you dont have WTL lol

[tonytucker]

Your missing this when you dont have WTL lol

Actress

[Dorset Plodder]

The maths is very simple.
In an office of say 60 staff, if everyone has 30 minutes WTLL scheduled then that adds 30 hours/week to the indoor hours.
Take it away and you lose a job.
WTLL may be a lot of things, but it isn't pointless.

I agree with your point. If WTLL isn't being done (but the hours are being booked by the Manager, as I believe it's a box that needs to be Ticked for an element of his bonus)then it's basically Fraud!
However in the world of Royal Mail, where "I'm alright Jack f**k You"! Most of the Runners see WTLL simply as something which is stopping them rushing out the door to finish early!

How many times have you been in one of these sessions and someone is trying to get something sorted and all you hear is, " Come on for God's sake we're wasting time we could be out on delivery"? The short sightedness of these idiots is beyond belief. They'll sell their souls for £200 instead of putting in a disagreement and getting the Office Duties sorted. Which will benefit EVERYONE LONG TERM