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Working at a different office

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paulf0203
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Working at a different office

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Can someone advise me of the agreement on working away from your designated office please. My understanding is that you turn up at your normal office at your normal start time and someone will take you to the office where you are scheduled to work for that day , I'm not sure about getting back is this correct? can someone advise me of the relevant agreement this is in please, I thank you in anticipation.
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Yes they also have to get you back to your home office within your contracted finishing time.
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turn up at your office at your starting time ,, tell them they have to get you there , and they have to return you so that you are in your office at your finishing time ,, if you go a minute over , book it as overtime ,, they will offer you petrol money ,tell them your not insured ,, say no you want conveyed there ,,that takes up someone elses time taking and getting you back ,, do it by the book ,, it pisses them off no end :crazy: :crazy:
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As the previous poster stated. Do NOT be intimidated into using your own vehicle. Almost certainly you won't be insured. Most policies only cover you to your "usual place of employment". Anything more and you need business cover. Just quoting you are not insured to your DOM should be the end of the conversation.
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castra wrote:As the previous poster stated. Do NOT be intimidated into using your own vehicle. Almost certainly you won't be insured. Most policies only cover you to your "usual place of employment". Anything more and you need business cover. Just quoting you are not insured to your DOM should be the end of the conversation.
Thanks for that but do you know what agreement if any it's contained in?
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I used to be on a 5 hour a day contract. Once I got sent to another office to do a duty, so i signed in at my office at my start time and by the time I had got the other office and prepped, i only had time for 3 loops before it was time to set off back. Not been asked to go back to that particular office since. :dance
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paulf0203 wrote:
castra wrote:As the previous poster stated. Do NOT be intimidated into using your own vehicle. Almost certainly you won't be insured. Most policies only cover you to your "usual place of employment". Anything more and you need business cover. Just quoting you are not insured to your DOM should be the end of the conversation.
Thanks for that but do you know what agreement if any it's contained in?
Flexibility Agreement http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 36&t=12462" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
• Working in nearby offices – Areas will identify and agree with the CWU
locally a approach (which could include the use of volunteers and
reserves) to working in nearby offices within employees’ contracted
hours which will include travel times and appropriate travel and
subsistence arrangements
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Ahebban wrote:Working in nearby offices –
Areas will identify and agree with the CWU locally a approach (which could include the use of volunteers and reserves) to working in nearby offices within employees’ contracted hours which will include travel times and appropriate travel and subsistence arrangements.

the travel time - from his own office to the mail centre and the return journey back to his office - comes out of his contracted hours - so if the travel time to and from the mail centre totals 1 hour, that travel time comes out of his contracted 8 hours.

You could argue that he can't start before 10.30am owing to family commitments (or whatever). It would be dependent on what work is available at the mail centre up to the point where he needs to be back at his own office by 18.30pm. The travel arrangements need to be organised and agreed before leaving his own office - especially as he is not able to drive himself. What also needs taking into consideration is any training required to perform any task(s) on arrival at the mail centre.
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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
paulf0203 wrote:
castra wrote:As the previous poster stated. Do NOT be intimidated into using your own vehicle. Almost certainly you won't be insured. Most policies only cover you to your "usual place of employment". Anything more and you need business cover. Just quoting you are not insured to your DOM should be the end of the conversation.
Thanks for that but do you know what agreement if any it's contained in?
Flexibility Agreement http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 36&t=12462" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
• Working in nearby offices – Areas will identify and agree with the CWU
locally a approach (which could include the use of volunteers and
reserves) to working in nearby offices within employees’ contracted
hours which will include travel times and appropriate travel and
subsistence arrangements
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If you are signed to a duty can you be sent to another office to work whilst a reserve does your duty?
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falkirk1 wrote:If you are signed to a duty can you be sent to another office to work whilst a reserve does your duty?
Rule of thumb is volunteers 1st,then reserves.
Is there a particular reason a duty holder is being picked.
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I've been on the same duty since I started but haven't been signed off on it, I am getting sent to work at another office because I am classed as a reserve and I am the last one in. There might be a duty coming up that I could go for but have been told even though I might get it I will still be getting sent because I am the last one in. Just wondering where I stand.
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As junior reserve yes you would be the 1st to go if no one else wants it.
When you sign for a duty you will no longer be a reserve so the colleague who became junior reserve cause you have signed for a duty would be the 1st to be sent.
Areas will identify and agree with the CWU locally a approach (which could include the use of volunteers and reserves) to working in nearby offices
Nuffin to do with last one in! :cuppa
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It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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That's what I thought just needed clarification,cheers