Six days a week.

Rommagic · Post by **Rommagic** » 27 Jan 2015, 14:15

How long can people on here see Royal Mail providing a delivery six days a week?.

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 27 Jan 2015, 14:16

3 years

Rommagic · Post by **Rommagic** » 27 Jan 2015, 14:30

People are getting worried because of the mail volume on a Tuesday.Talk of EVR Royal Mail laspe think that's the long term answer.

Bahia Feliz · Post by **Bahia Feliz** » 27 Jan 2015, 15:04

I'm off today,my postie said it was 'ridiculously easy' and the bloke doing my round sent me a text ( as you do ) to say he was finished at 10.45!

Bahia Feliz · Post by **Bahia Feliz** » 27 Jan 2015, 15:25

Rommagic wrote:Talk of EVR Royal Mail laspe think that's the long term answer.

Is that one thing or 2?

clashcityrocker · Post by **clashcityrocker** » 27 Jan 2015, 15:32

Rommagic wrote:How long can people on here see Royal Mail providing a delivery six days a week?.

I would be surprised if it lasts another 12 months.
Though if a move to one wave produces enough short term savings, it might last 18 months.
Regional pricing may give it the kiss of life or may kill it stone dead.

pinstripe · Post by **pinstripe** » 27 Jan 2015, 15:36

Clash, what's this move to one wave? I've heard it suggested, but no details.

clashcityrocker · Post by **clashcityrocker** » 27 Jan 2015, 15:48

pinstripe wrote:Clash, what's this move to one wave? I've heard it suggested, but no details.

The suggestion is to have only one sequenced wave of mail instead of 2, which will arrive around the time you currently get your second wave.
There were rumours of a trial, but obviously the union are against it.
Most people wouldn't need to start before 8. It would end any innovative attendance patterns (9 day fortnight etc) because of the shorter working day and mean a predominantly p/t workforce unless we went back to a 6 day week. And of course there would be job losses among those that work on the machines and transport the mail.
As TNT/Whistl expand their operation and take away the sequenced mail, there is less need for 2 waves and a strong economic argument for one wave.

The removal of the USO and the 5 day delivery will be politically unpopular (especially toxic in an election year) so one wave might be a stepping stone.
Who knows?

Post by **halfull** » 27 Jan 2015, 15:56

clashcityrocker wrote:
Rommagic wrote:How long can people on here see Royal Mail providing a delivery six days a week?.
I would be surprised if it lasts another 12 months.
Though if a move to one wave produces enough short term savings, it might last 18 months.
Regional pricing may give it the kiss of life or may kill it stone dead.

You will be surprised then because on the 27th January 2016 we will still be delivering 6 days per week.

Post by **IloveMYredTROLLEY!** » 27 Jan 2015, 16:57

Rommagic wrote:People are getting worried because of the mail volume on a Tuesday.Talk of EVR Royal Mail laspe think that's the long term answer.

Well if OPGs played a longer game than the idea of gaining a few minutes that day, they might want to think carefully about what bad practices they do which artificially reduces the workload requirements, such as...
Filtering mail for the next delivery point on the move, instead of stationary outside the previous address (easily could be in excess of 2 seconds per call)
Nesting D2D instead of separate items, not only against official policy, but by being separate it means more stationary filtering time
Carrying pouches and using HCTs as mobile bag drops, instead of using delivery method tools (HCT, LWT) correct for the walk in question, (light pouches should only be carried for specific addresses such as for blocks of flats)
Giving addressee 1 minute to answer the door for an attendance call, instead of ~10 seconds before writing out the P739

Today was very light for letters in my office section, but the runners still ran and gave management ammunition to think about extended walks and redundancies, a few of us did the job properly and only finished contract hours 10 mins early (and then did some constructive work until finish time).

clashcityrocker · Post by **clashcityrocker** » 27 Jan 2015, 17:19

IloveMYredTROLLEY! wrote:
Rommagic wrote:People are getting worried because of the mail volume on a Tuesday.Talk of EVR Royal Mail laspe think that's the long term answer.
Well if OPGs played a longer game than the idea of gaining a few minutes that day,

Sometimes people will just have to admit there isn't sufficient work to fill the contracted hours.
People finishing 90 minutes early isn't due to not filtering the mail etc and any attempts to string it out are as harmful to us as early starts etc.

Post by **IloveMYredTROLLEY!** » 27 Jan 2015, 18:10

clashcityrocker wrote:
IloveMYredTROLLEY! wrote:
Rommagic wrote:People are getting worried because of the mail volume on a Tuesday.Talk of EVR Royal Mail laspe think that's the long term answer.
Well if OPGs played a longer game than the idea of gaining a few minutes that day,
Sometimes people will just have to admit there isn't sufficient work to fill the contracted hours.
People finishing 90 minutes early isn't due to not filtering the mail etc and any attempts to string it out are as harmful to us as early starts etc.

I never stated people would finish 90 minutes early in the post above, but it could very easily be ~45 minutes. If we work to a reasonable pace, doing things correctly, how is that as harmful as early starters?

None of the examples above are stringing it out, they are the sorts of things that many OPGs do incorrectly, as a response to the impossible workload pressure they are under. But all they do is continually lower depot budgets and ultimately cost jobs.

It's also worth pointing out that some of these time saving practices could cost you your enhanced RM sick pay, if your bad practice comes out during the accident fact finding interview process, especially if you have for instance a bad back history on record.

Next you will be telling us that "doorstepping" parcels or leaving any mail in dodgy places is acceptable.

clashcityrocker · Post by **clashcityrocker** » 27 Jan 2015, 18:36

IloveMYredTROLLEY! wrote:
I never stated people would finish 90 minutes early in the post above,

Next you will be telling us that "doorstepping" parcels or leaving any mail in dodgy places is acceptable.

No I spoke of people finishing 90 minutes early because that is the reality I know.
Your post suggested anyone finishing early was not doing the job correctly. That isn't always the case.
Sometimes they finish early because there isn't enough work to fill their contracted hours.
And pretending to be working tars a lot of other posties with the same brush and that isn't helpful.

Why would I advocate doorstepping? It is a sackable offence.

Darren Bent · Post by **Darren Bent** » 27 Jan 2015, 19:36

I could see it reducing to 5 days a week but it will be Tuesday to Saturday knowing Royal Mail. Let hope CWU will not let this happens.

A2B · Post by **A2B** » 27 Jan 2015, 19:45

Darren Bent wrote:I could see it reducing to 5 days a week but it will be Tuesday to Saturday knowing Royal Mail. Let hope CWU will not let this happens.

How the hell do you expect the CWU to stop RM doing what they want to stay profitable?

Saturdays are always going to be part of our working week, in our office it's one of our busiest days unfortunately but i knew i would have to work Saturdays when i started working for the company

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