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BarnsleyLackey
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Shoes.

Post by BarnsleyLackey »

With all the snow and ice about, it got me thinking on footwear and everyone's view that if you haven't got RM footwear on, if you slip, you're doomed.
I picked up on here a while ago something along the lines of - RM footwear is workwear and not Heath And Safety wear, so it doesn't matter if you're wearing RM footwear, as it's the surface that's the problem.
Is there any truth to this? I know that when the managers make their annual enquiries about footwear, a lot is said about Doctor's cover notes etc.
gluteus maximus
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Re: Shoes.

Post by gluteus maximus »

BarnsleyLackey wrote:With all the snow and ice about, it got me thinking on footwear and everyone's view that if you haven't got RM footwear on, if you slip, you're doomed.
I picked up on here a while ago something along the lines of - RM footwear is workwear and not Heath And Safety wear, so it doesn't matter if you're wearing RM footwear, as it's the surface that's the problem.
Is there any truth to this? I know that when the managers make their annual enquiries about footwear, a lot is said about Doctor's cover notes etc.
This comes up quite regular. I would like to know how an employer can get away with stating that if you are not wearing Royal Mail footwear you are doomed

Royal Mail footwear is not PPE unless your duty structure and risk assessment states they are needed. Working on the loading bay as an example. You can probably get disciplined under the uniform code for failing to wear company issued footwear. The only exception will be through medical prescription that issued footwear is detrimental. You will then be expected to facilitate your own footwear adequate for the designated duty.

If you are outside, slip on some stairs and break a leg, any claim will be against the house holder , not Royal Mail. To make any personal injury claim you will have to prove negligence on the other party, not Royal Mail unless through vicarious liability
rubberbond
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Re: Shoes.

Post by rubberbond »

gluteus maximus wrote:
BarnsleyLackey wrote:With all the snow and ice about, it got me thinking on footwear and everyone's view that if you haven't got RM footwear on, if you slip, you're doomed.
I picked up on here a while ago something along the lines of - RM footwear is workwear and not Heath And Safety wear, so it doesn't matter if you're wearing RM footwear, as it's the surface that's the problem.
Is there any truth to this? I know that when the managers make their annual enquiries about footwear, a lot is said about Doctor's cover notes etc.
This comes up quite regular. I would like to know how an employer can get away with stating that if you are not wearing Royal Mail footwear you are doomed

Royal Mail footwear is not PPE unless your duty structure and risk assessment states they are needed. Working on the loading bay as an example. You can probably get disciplined under the uniform code for failing to wear company issued footwear. The only exception will be through medical prescription that issued footwear is detrimental. You will then be expected to facilitate your own footwear adequate for the designated duty.

If you are outside, slip on some stairs and break a leg, any claim will be against the house holder , not Royal Mail. To make any personal injury claim you will have to prove negligence on the other party, not Royal Mail unless through vicarious liability
Some excellent points well put. However,when it comes to the investigation of the accident, you will be blamed,
A) For not "testing", the surface. Whatever that means
B) Failing to carry out, a "dynamic risk assessment"
C) Not wearing the proscribed footwear, even though evidence may suggest that the root cause is something different,in their eyes, the (poor quality) footwear they provide is beyond reproach and cannot be in anyway be other than blameless and stick to any surface ,like s**t to blankets
Therefore taking into account that no stage warnings are issued for accidents on duty,as it is now deemed that it is your fault, all bets are off.

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Re: Shoes.

Post by pinstripe »

Got bit by a dog on delivery once. The first questions asked were, was I wearing my hi-vis vest and RM footwear. :crazy: