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TrueBlueTerrier
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First Time Delivery/Delivery to Neighbour - Nominated Neighb
LTB 039/15 - First Time Delivery/Delivery to Neighbour - Nominated Neighbour Guidelines
No. 39/15
Ref: 530
Date: 21st January 2015
To: Branches with POSTAL Members
Dear Colleague,
First Time Delivery/Delivery to Neighbour - Nominated Neighbour Guidelines
Branches will be aware of the revised National Agreement covering “First Time Delivery – Delivery To Neighbour” contained in LTB 385/14 and the ongoing work of the Safety, Customer Service & Quality Strand within the Integrated Delivery Programme.
As part of the work being undertaken by the strand which has seen the first time delivery rate rise to approximately 91% on a National basis, we have looked at introducing standard processes. This has identified a number of anomalies which are mainly down to placing too much emphasis on delivery OPGs and basically attempting to make them the scapegoat for failed first time delivery.
As a result we have agreed a standard process which involves Enquiry Offices collating information from customers when they collect a P739 item and asking them if they have a preferred neighbour which is then logged. This is designed to assist OPGs being able to identify an alternative delivery address to the original addressee which at the same time helps to increase the first time delivery success rate.
Whilst we have agreed to the attached guidelines, it is made clear to the customers when visiting the Enquiry Office that the acceptance of this information does not guarantee that delivery to their nominated neighbour will always be achievable. In addition we have also agreed that there will be no culpability associated with any OPGs if they fail to attempt or complete delivery to a nominated neighbour.
The process will be kept under review in the IDP Strand to monitor the number of requests, the success rate of first time delivery and also to enable any findings to be fed into the ongoing discussions around future software on the new PDAs.
Any enquiries to Bob Gibson’s Office, quoting reference 530
Email address: hnutley@cwu.org or Mstewart@cwu.org
Yours sincerely
Bob Gibson
CWU Assistant Secretary - Outdoor
No. 39/15
Ref: 530
Date: 21st January 2015
To: Branches with POSTAL Members
Dear Colleague,
First Time Delivery/Delivery to Neighbour - Nominated Neighbour Guidelines
Branches will be aware of the revised National Agreement covering “First Time Delivery – Delivery To Neighbour” contained in LTB 385/14 and the ongoing work of the Safety, Customer Service & Quality Strand within the Integrated Delivery Programme.
As part of the work being undertaken by the strand which has seen the first time delivery rate rise to approximately 91% on a National basis, we have looked at introducing standard processes. This has identified a number of anomalies which are mainly down to placing too much emphasis on delivery OPGs and basically attempting to make them the scapegoat for failed first time delivery.
As a result we have agreed a standard process which involves Enquiry Offices collating information from customers when they collect a P739 item and asking them if they have a preferred neighbour which is then logged. This is designed to assist OPGs being able to identify an alternative delivery address to the original addressee which at the same time helps to increase the first time delivery success rate.
Whilst we have agreed to the attached guidelines, it is made clear to the customers when visiting the Enquiry Office that the acceptance of this information does not guarantee that delivery to their nominated neighbour will always be achievable. In addition we have also agreed that there will be no culpability associated with any OPGs if they fail to attempt or complete delivery to a nominated neighbour.
The process will be kept under review in the IDP Strand to monitor the number of requests, the success rate of first time delivery and also to enable any findings to be fed into the ongoing discussions around future software on the new PDAs.
Any enquiries to Bob Gibson’s Office, quoting reference 530
Email address: hnutley@cwu.org or Mstewart@cwu.org
Yours sincerely
Bob Gibson
CWU Assistant Secretary - Outdoor
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Re: First Time Delivery/Delivery to Neighbour - Nominated Ne
so now a reserve / Rest day cover has to carry around with him/her a booklet of where they can leave a packet for someone on the walk they are covering!!
also another job for the callers office staff to do, when there are long queues for p739'd items and they are asking customers for their preferred neighbour to deliver their precious packets to and keeping a note of it.

also another job for the callers office staff to do, when there are long queues for p739'd items and they are asking customers for their preferred neighbour to deliver their precious packets to and keeping a note of it.
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fishtank
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Re: First Time Delivery/Delivery to Neighbour - Nominated Ne
Is this for real?
It's a wind up Shirley.
How in f**k's name do I remember hundreds of "Nominated Neighbours"?
New PDA app?
It's a wind up Shirley.
How in f**k's name do I remember hundreds of "Nominated Neighbours"?
New PDA app?
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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borgpicard
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Re: First Time Delivery/Delivery to Neighbour - Nominated Ne
yeah, we got loads of time in our day to mess about walking backwards and fowards seeing whos home
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rubberbond
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Re: First Time Delivery/Delivery to Neighbour - Nominated Ne
Study the following scenarioborgpicard wrote:yeah, we got loads of time in our day to mess about walking backwards and fowards seeing whos home
OPG returns to office. H/she is then approached by a manager
Manager : I see you are returning Tracked items, did you try a neighbour?
OPG: (desperately trying to avoid being sarcastic and resisting the urge to throttle,said manager) yes I doc and they wrren't in.
End of conversation, he doesn't know whether you did or not,whether there was a dog loose other safety issues, etc. So where does he go from here? Nowhere.what a complete load of horse s**t.
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clashcityrocker
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Re: First Time Delivery/Delivery to Neighbour - Nominated Ne
Until you've got a PDA that allows him to track your every movement.rubberbond wrote:Study the following scenarioborgpicard wrote:yeah, we got loads of time in our day to mess about walking backwards and fowards seeing whos home
OPG returns to office. H/she is then approached by a manager
Manager : I see you are returning Tracked items, did you try a neighbour?
OPG: (desperately trying to avoid being sarcastic and resisting the urge to throttle,said manager) yes I doc and they wrren't in.
End of conversation, he doesn't know whether you did or not,whether there was a dog loose other safety issues, etc. So where does he go from here? Nowhere.what a complete load of horse s**t.
Then he'll know.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
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fishtank
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Re: First Time Delivery/Delivery to Neighbour - Nominated Ne
That's not how it works, BlackBay will tell them which duties in your office are bringing back the most Tracked Items. He will gather data over a couple of weeks, He will pull you in for the conversation with your rep present and they will both urge you for the sake of the business to try to increase your first time delivery rates. If you don't there will be another conversation, then another until he gets bored and starts picking up on any mistake you make in an attempt to conduct you, eventually being human you'll make a mistake....rubberbond wrote:End of conversation, he doesn't know whether you did or not,whether there was a dog loose other safety issues, etc. So where does he go from here? Nowhere.what a complete load of horse s**t.
That's how it always works in this business.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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GT85
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Re: First Time Delivery/Delivery to Neighbour - Nominated Ne
We're all here because we're not all there
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k979aaa
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Re: First Time Delivery/Delivery to Neighbour - Nominated Ne
And why is this because of management bonus's targets yet if you left the item with a thief who lives next door it is you the managers will come after! Don't tell me it's bullshit as I have found out the hard way the delivery OPG is the sole discretion of delivery to the neighbour if you think it is not safe don't leave it. And f**k the DOM'S bonus!fishtank wrote:That's not how it works, BlackBay will tell them which duties in your office are bringing back the most Tracked Items. He will gather data over a couple of weeks, He will pull you in for the conversation with your rep present and they will both urge you for the sake of the business to try to increase your first time delivery rates. If you don't there will be another conversation, then another until he gets bored and starts picking up on any mistake you make in an attempt to conduct you, eventually being human you'll make a mistake....rubberbond wrote:End of conversation, he doesn't know whether you did or not,whether there was a dog loose other safety issues, etc. So where does he go from here? Nowhere.what a complete load of horse s**t.
That's how it always works in this business.
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clashcityrocker
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Re: First Time Delivery/Delivery to Neighbour - Nominated Ne
I don't understand the obsession with manager's bonuses.k979aaa wrote: And f**k the DOM'S bonus!
People on this site go on about it relentlessly.
Mot of the ones I know are desperately trying to hang on their job.
The s**t they come out with is more to do with keeping their job than worrying about their bonus.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
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fishtank
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Re: First Time Delivery/Delivery to Neighbour - Nominated Ne
That's possibly the worst grammar/spelling i've ever seen from you, are you drinking or do you have one of those new "smart" phones?clashcityrocker wrote:I don't understand the obsession with manager's bonuses.k979aaa wrote: And f**k the DOM'S bonus!
People on this site go on about it relentlessly.
Mot of the ones I know are desperately trying to hang on their job.
The s**t they come out with is more to do with keeping their job than worrying about their bonus.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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k979aaa
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Re: First Time Delivery/Delivery to Neighbour - Nominated Ne
Is the Tracked items a target of 90% delivered first time or not a target for a management trigger point for a bonus? hence the need for delivery to neighbour as most people work or are out so why 90% is it a target or is it not!clashcityrocker wrote:I don't understand the obsession with manager's bonuses.k979aaa wrote: And f**k the DOM'S bonus!
People on this site go on about it relentlessly.
Mot of the ones I know are desperately trying to hang on their job.
The s**t they come out with is more to do with keeping their job than worrying about their bonus.
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trythat
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Re: First Time Delivery/Delivery to Neighbour - Nominated Ne
I think I read some where that the new PDA will allow custumers the chance to tell us where their safe place is, I assume when pkt is scanned. I suppose the new PDA will have GPS in it (which HQ will agree to tracking) so I can see that as you walk along the PDA will pop up neighbours are willing to be the free post office of their area.fishtank wrote:Is this for real?
It's a wind up Shirley.
How in f**k's name do I remember hundreds of "Nominated Neighbours"?
New PDA app?
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POSTMAN
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Re: First Time Delivery/Delivery to Neighbour - Nominated Ne
Who'd a thought it.This has identified a number of anomalies which are mainly down to placing too much emphasis on delivery OPGs and basically attempting to make them the scapegoat for failed first time delivery.

I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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fb1969
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Re: First Time Delivery/Delivery to Neighbour - Nominated Ne
No mention of whether the neighbour wants to be nominated. I have several neighbours who are getting fed up with endless receiving things for the bloke next door who is never in.
Royal Mail
failing the workforce, failing the public and deliberately failing mail on a daily basis for too many years.
failing the workforce, failing the public and deliberately failing mail on a daily basis for too many years.