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Hammer59
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Specials clarity

Post by Hammer59 »

There are differences of opinion in our office regarding specials on Saturdays. One opinion is that they do not have to be delivered by 1pm unless they are Saturday Guaranteed, the other opinion is that they should be delivered by 1pm. Can someone please clarify ?
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Re: Specials clarity

Post by IloveMYredTROLLEY! »

Going by how they are dealt with in most depots, customers who have paid an extra premium for a "SG" Special should be getting a refund on the price difference above a standard Special.

SG Specials guarantee a delivery attempt before 1pm Saturday, standard Specials that go into the system on Friday are guaranteed a delivery attempt by 1pm Monday.

RM, unsurprisingly, have an amazing tracking system that groups them altogether (allegedly). So a standard Special delivered after 1pm is registered as a failure, apparently!

... Or do managers get extra bonus for early clearing of all Specials? :hmmmm
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Re: Specials clarity

Post by DGP1 »

If it comes from the RLE then it's to be delivered by 1pm, they scan them in as being available so they become active.
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Re: Specials clarity

Post by glenfiddich »

DGP1 wrote:If it comes from the RLE then it's to be delivered by 1pm, they scan them in as being available so they become active.
yes but then we scan some of them and they don't even need signing for :arrrghhh
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Re: Specials clarity

Post by SpacePhoenix »

The only specials that shouldn't be attempted on a Saturday are ones with an official Saturday Retention in place
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Re: Specials clarity

Post by krussel »

DGP1 wrote:If it comes from the RLE then it's to be delivered by 1pm, they scan them in as being available so they become active.

But would the customer be able to make a claim as a failure without paying for the sat service ? :hmmmm
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Re: Specials clarity

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Re: Specials clarity

Post by krussel »


Monday to Friday (and may include Saturday if you have opted to have a Saturday guaranteed delivery)

So there is no 1pm sat unless its a sat guaranteed item.
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Re: Specials clarity

Post by matta »

There is no clarity with how specials should be treated on a Saturday, even if there is a Saturday retention it should still be attempted as the customer could be there waiting just for the special, in my office redelivery specials are treated the same must be attempted before 1, yet why should they be as the service they paid for expired the first day delivery was attempted
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Post by krussel »

matta wrote:There is no clarity with how specials should be treated on a Saturday, even if there is a Saturday retention it should still be attempted as the customer could be there waiting just for the special, in my office redelivery specials are treated the same must be attempted before 1, yet why should they be as the service they paid for expired the first day delivery was attempted
Same as a return to sender special. :hmmmm
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Re: Specials clarity

Post by Hodsyharry »

As far as I can work out. Special delivery before 1pm sent on Friday is guaranteed for 1pm Monday. Therefore taking out on Saturday and delivering fulfils this criteria as it has arrived before this time. A Saturday special has to be delivered before 1pm on Saturday. So, if a standard special delivery goes out on Saturday it does not need to be delivered before 1pm on Saturday. If a Saturday retention is in operation, it is scanned on Saturday as "inaccessible" at our office and delivered before 1pm on Monday. So would this then mean that it is no longer guaranteed before 1pm on Monday?
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Re: Specials clarity

Post by OnAFlyer »

Hodsyharry wrote:As far as I can work out. Special delivery before 1pm sent on Friday is guaranteed for 1pm Monday. Therefore taking out on Saturday and delivering fulfils this criteria as it has arrived before this time. A Saturday special has to be delivered before 1pm on Saturday. So, if a standard special delivery goes out on Saturday it does not need to be delivered before 1pm on Saturday. If a Saturday retention is in operation, it is scanned on Saturday as "inaccessible" at our office and delivered before 1pm on Monday. So would this then mean that it is no longer guaranteed before 1pm on Monday?
Any SD's scanned out for delivery in our office on a Saturday fail if they are delivered after 1pm.
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Re: Specials clarity

Post by Lounge Lizard »

With an earlier finish on Saturday surely it's no problem to deliver ALL Special Deliveries by 1pm on Saturday :Very Happy
and it shouldn't really be our concern whether or not those forking out the extra £4 for 'SG' have paid over the odds. :nana
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Re: Specials clarity

Post by PHGandmore »

OnAFlyer wrote:
Hodsyharry wrote:As far as I can work out. Special delivery before 1pm sent on Friday is guaranteed for 1pm Monday. Therefore taking out on Saturday and delivering fulfils this criteria as it has arrived before this time. A Saturday special has to be delivered before 1pm on Saturday. So, if a standard special delivery goes out on Saturday it does not need to be delivered before 1pm on Saturday. If a Saturday retention is in operation, it is scanned on Saturday as "inaccessible" at our office and delivered before 1pm on Monday. So would this then mean that it is no longer guaranteed before 1pm on Monday?
Any SD's scanned out for delivery in our office on a Saturday fail if they are delivered after 1pm.
I can only speak for my office but any SD's scanned out for delivery on a Saturday DO NOT FAIL if they are delivered after 1pm
( obviously sat guarantee must be made before 1pm)

Unless the customer has paid for Saturday guarentee then items posted on a Friday are not guaranteed until Monday.
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Re: Specials clarity

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