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Fishless
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Operational Needs

Post by Fishless »

Can I be taken off my duty because I do the job correctly, i.e. come in on time, do my 1/6th day D2D, take my meal break and want to finish on time at least on the 'quieter' days of Monday and Tuesday? My Union Rep has said they can't and tells me to cut off but speaking to DOM this week he insists he can under 'operational needs' by putting a runner on the job who comes in early every day and doesn't claim even when goes over. Is there any written confirmation of either viewpoints?
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Post by slinder123 »

if you signed for the duty and do the duty as you say you do he cannot take you off it as he has no cause to do that hold your ground the rep is with you good luck
Fishless
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Ok, thanks, problem is Union told me the same thing last year and I still got taken off the job and only after grievance got back on my job months later - now exactly the same threats again am hoping someone knows if there are any documents regarding this rule
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Fishless wrote:Ok, thanks, problem is Union told me the same thing last year and I still got taken off the job and only after grievance got back on my job months later - now exactly the same threats again am hoping someone knows if there are any documents regarding this rule
No such documents but if you signed for it is yours why come off it. Is it because they are bullying you again these managers are a law unto themselves!
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Post by rhino49 »

If you get moved to another duty then stick to your time EVERY day, which will cause more problems than the DOM has at the moment - at least you appear to show goodwill at the moment by going over on busy days, but he wants to be a silly bugger then you should follow his good example.
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Words needs to be had with said runner.
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Fishless
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POSTMAN wrote:Words needs to be had with said runner.
I've had several words with all the runners many, many times!!
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Post by Nigel1505 »

Our runners don't stay still long enough to talk to them. No breaks, in early, out an hour before anyone else..............then home to watch Bargain Hunt. Bliss..................... wish my life was like that. :arrrghhh :arrrghhh :arrrghhh
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So what your DOM is essentially saying is, you have performance issues ?
Ask to be walk tested, see what he says about that.

Then test the said runner, but this time he walks and takes his break.

If all else fails, then go off sick using stress related illness caused by the stress of being moved off your walk.
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pod25 wrote:So what your DOM is essentially saying is, you have performance issues ?
Ask to be walk tested, see what he says about that.

Then test the said runner, but this time he walks and takes his break.

If all else fails, then go off sick using stress related illness caused by the stress of being moved off your walk.
Already done that been tested 3 times and went over every time, then won my stage 3 grievance last year but the issues still being brushed under the carpet and I was off 6 months with work related stress!! Now bullying started again lino plays peek-a-boo watching me through fittings trying to catch me out!
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Fishless wrote:
pod25 wrote:So what your DOM is essentially saying is, you have performance issues ?
Ask to be walk tested, see what he says about that.

Then test the said runner, but this time he walks and takes his break.

If all else fails, then go off sick using stress related illness caused by the stress of being moved off your walk.
Already done that been tested 3 times and went over every time, then won my stage 3 grievance last year but the issues still being brushed under the carpet and I was off 6 months with work related stress!! Now bullying started again lino plays peek-a-boo watching me through fittings trying to catch me out!
I can't believe this type of crap still goes on.
When will it end :crazy:

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Post by brettt »

Grievance now. Do not wait. If a threat to move you has clearly been made by DOM do not hesitate. Your REP should also be challenging DOM on the bigger picture, assuming runners go home early before duty finish times.
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Post by raikky »

and if they move you to another duty, just cut off even more. give them a headache.