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Senior royal mail management unfit for purpose
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k979aaa
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Senior royal mail management unfit for purpose
Never in all my time in this now business have I have felt so enraged by the fools from above some pontificate like the pope of no hope they are the enemy's of the business themselves. For without workers you have no business not least a company these prats in middle/senior management need to be eradicated and attitudes at the top need to be changed or we have no future END THE BOUNUS CULTURE NOW!
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jmcg
- MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
- Posts: 147
- Joined: 14 Jul 2010, 15:50
- Gender: Male
Re: Senior royal mail management unfit for purpose
could not agree more..
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Lazycarton
- Posts: 193
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mailman71
- Posts: 500
- Joined: 10 Jun 2007, 08:03
Re: Senior royal mail management unfit for purpose
For me the biggest problem in Royal Mail is the fact that we have people at the top who have never done the job.
They sit at their computers telling us how long it takes to do this and that but could'nt do it themselves for me I have in 40 years in the job never seen a computer climbing a stair or deliver a parcel.
They sit at their computers telling us how long it takes to do this and that but could'nt do it themselves for me I have in 40 years in the job never seen a computer climbing a stair or deliver a parcel.
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arnold cheshire
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Re: Senior royal mail management unfit for purpose
ive not seen a computer walking in the streets in wind and rain or in any weathermailman71 wrote:For me the biggest problem in Royal Mail is the fact that we have people at the top who have never done the job.
They sit at their computers telling us how long it takes to do this and that but could'nt do it themselves for me I have in 40 years in the job never seen a computer climbing a stair or deliver a parcel.
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vanman90
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Re: Senior royal mail management unfit for purpose
ALL ROYAL MAIL MANAGEMENT UNFIT FOR PURPOSE.k979aaa wrote:Never in all my time in this now business have I have felt so enraged by the fools from above some pontificate like the pope of no hope they are the enemy's of the business themselves. For without workers you have no business not least a company these prats in middle/senior management need to be eradicated and attitudes at the top need to be changed or we have no future END THE BOUNUS CULTURE NOW!
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redneck
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Re: Senior royal mail management unfit for purpose
Is that you Moya? The incentive scheme already in place for managers is far more influential on how delivery officers are treated, and is the basis for bullying, harassment and manipulation of figures.future_RM wrote:I agree, we need to end the money grabbing bonus culture in RM.
9% over 3 years and still chasing an incentive scheme I believe![]()
A lot of dead wood amongst the ranks too, think they are doing RM a favor turning up for work in the morning.
Best thing royal mail could do is take the short term pain, sack the entire workforce then offer employment with more favorable business terms allowing RM to compete effectively + no CWU recognition within the workplace.
I think the company would become far more healthy in short period of time.
I also believe this is going to happen far sooner than many of you think![]()
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fishtank
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Re: Senior royal mail management unfit for purpose
future_RM wrote:Best thing royal mail could do is take the short term pain, sack the entire workforce then offer employment with more favorable business terms allowing RM to compete effectively + no CWU recognition within the workplace.
It's favourable not favorable.
If RM were to do this it would be business suicide, By the time they sorted out the HR headache alone there would be nothing worth restarting the business for and how would no union recognition work?
I hope you're not a manager because you know f**k all about business or employment law.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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postiel
- Posts: 56
- Joined: 05 May 2007, 09:34
- Location: south
Re: Senior royal mail management unfit for purpose
Canadian spelling????????????It's favourable not favorable.
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5plusbonusball
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Re: Senior royal mail management unfit for purpose
time to overthrow the management , we can do the job on our own with new leaders to see it from our level.
Why are lino's paid full-time ??
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fishtank
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Re: Senior royal mail management unfit for purpose
future_RM wrote:How many customer complaints has your office had year to date, redirections, SD B+ failures, mis delivery etc.
How many collection failures?
Seems to me that many posties cant even grab the basics let alone run the place.
I would imagine that a high level of customer complaints would have to reflect on the quality of training and the quality of management. It's a poor workman that blames his tools which in this case would be the posties themselves. Do you have a high level of customer complaints in your office?
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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halfull
- EX ROYAL MAIL
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- Joined: 22 Jan 2011, 13:37
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Re: Senior royal mail management unfit for purpose
lol, this must be a wind upfuture_RM wrote:There is a high level of customer complaints nationally.fishtank wrote:future_RM wrote:How many customer complaints has your office had year to date, redirections, SD B+ failures, mis delivery etc.
How many collection failures?
Seems to me that many posties cant even grab the basics let alone run the place.
I would imagine that a high level of customer complaints would have to reflect on the quality of training and the quality of management. It's a poor workman that blames his tools which in this case would be the posties themselves. Do you have a high level of customer complaints in your office?
Good job we have WCM to find out which posties are incompetent, retrain them as required and if they still cant perform they need to be dismissed as quickly as possible to make way for someone that can do the job.
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The_Wax_Man
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Re: Senior royal mail management unfit for purpose
WCM needs to go upstream as wellfuture_RM wrote:There is a high level of customer complaints nationally.fishtank wrote:future_RM wrote:How many customer complaints has your office had year to date, redirections, SD B+ failures, mis delivery etc.
How many collection failures?
Seems to me that many posties cant even grab the basics let alone run the place.
I would imagine that a high level of customer complaints would have to reflect on the quality of training and the quality of management. It's a poor workman that blames his tools which in this case would be the posties themselves. Do you have a high level of customer complaints in your office?
Good job we have WCM to find out which posties are incompetent, retrain them as required and if they still cant perform they need to be dismissed as quickly as possible to make way for someone that can do the job.
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mailman71
- Posts: 500
- Joined: 10 Jun 2007, 08:03
Re: Senior royal mail management unfit for purpose
Are you a postie on planet zonk.future_RM wrote:I agree, we need to end the money grabbing bonus culture in RM.
9% over 3 years and still chasing an incentive scheme I believe![]()
A lot of dead wood amongst the ranks too, think they are doing RM a favor turning up for work in the morning.
Best thing royal mail could do is take the short term pain, sack the entire workforce then offer employment with more favorable business terms allowing RM to compete effectively + no CWU recognition within the workplace.
I think the company would become far more healthy in short period of time.
I also believe this is going to happen far sooner than many of you think![]()
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spiderj
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 969
- Joined: 12 Apr 2013, 07:54
- Gender: Male
- Location: ctp
Re: Senior royal mail management unfit for purpose
future_RM wrote:There is a high level of customer complaints nationally.fishtank wrote:future_RM wrote:How many customer complaints has your office had year to date, redirections, SD B+ failures, mis delivery etc.
How many collection failures?
Seems to me that many posties cant even grab the basics let alone run the place.
I would imagine that a high level of customer complaints would have to reflect on the quality of training and the quality of management. It's a poor workman that blames his tools which in this case would be the posties themselves. Do you have a high level of customer complaints in your office?
Good job we have WCM to find out which posties are incompetent, retrain them as required and if they still cant perform they need to be dismissed as quickly as possible to make way for someone that can do the job.
Its one pill four times a day
Not all four at once
Can affect cognitive abilities?
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