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Chelseablue
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Renationalised scottish r mail .
Will scotland as promised go back to being in the public hands if there's a vote yes?
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Lincox
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Re: Renationalised scottish r mail .
Possibly,but how will they call them Royal when they won,t have a sovereign ruling their country.

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Cut Off King
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Re: Renationalised scottish r mail .
Queen E2 will remain Queen of Scots, so the "Royal" bit can continueLincox wrote:Possibly,but how will they call them Royal when they won,t have a sovereign ruling their country.![]()
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cyrus
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Re: Renationalised scottish r mail .
David ReidPosties for yes
little meeting with Michael Mathieson msp Falkirk west and member of the Scottish cabinet
regarding royal mail renationalisation
The snp seek to deliver independence to Scotland and secure the next Scottish election in 2016 putting them as the first elected government of an independent
David Reid : what will the time frame be to renationalise royal mail
Michael Mathieson : snp have outlined that renationalising royal mail will be on their manifesto for the next election and they will actively work to complete this with in the four year term
David Reid : will the royal mail shares owned by postal workers be bought back at share price
Michael Mathieson : it will not be known what the eventual price will be but the buy back will be taken gradually over time
David Reid: how will an independent Scotland with a nationalised postal service ensure pay and conditions already set out
Michael Mathieson : nothing will change in that regard in fact the Scottish government has a good record dealing with the unions and ensuring terms are agreed .. recently we have seen the fire service and nurse strike in England however we have not seen the same action in Scotland this is because we have sat down with both sectors and agreed progress so in that way pay and conditions will continue as they do now
David Reid : will the Scottish government set policy within royal mail after its renationalisation
Michael Mathieson : we will create a platform that royal mail will have to work towards and in this way we can continue improving the service this is a protocol that is implemented with in nhs we give them a platform to work with
David Reid: what happens if royal mail dose not achieve the targeted platform set out by the Scottish government
Michael Mathieson : we will look into the workings of royal mail and see what the issues are if it is failing on the directors or managers they will have a time frame ensure that they work
David Reid : will royal mail be given an advantage over their competitors
Michael Mathieson : this would be an issue for and independent Scottish government to discuss but it would be with in the power of the Scottish government to do so for instance we could limit what they could do in Scotland via their licence
David Reid : would the Scottish government involve them selves in a renationalised royal mail regarding excessive levels of bullying and harassment
Michael Mathieson : they would obviously look to ensure that these kind of things can be resolved internally but how ever if it was seen that it was not being resolved then the Scottish government will look to bring in the same kind of whistle blowing service that operates with the nhs so to a degree we will get involved
David Reid : would the snp lead Scottish government go a head with plans to renationalise royal mail if the workers wanted it to remain a private company
Michael Mathieson : it has all ways been snps policy to renationalise royal mail and ensure the long term security of the jobs and royal mails commitment to the public to provide a quality service how ever it is the only party to commit its self to this cause
David Reid : will royal mail have any connection to an ruk royal mail
Michael Mathieson : after yes the Scottish government will take its shares of royal mail and its procedures will remain the same so we will have the connection with the postal service down south but will not have any other link other than to operate the mail efficiently
David Reid : will there be a shake up of managers jobs
Michael Mathieson : it has all ways been the decisions by the Scottish government to down size top heavy management in the departments of the government when we took charge of the nhs we give them the task of down sizing its management by 20% and it has achieved this target s in this sense the government would look into reducing the number of managers with in royal mail by the same rate and would look at performance to do so it is our belief to be as efficient as possible
David Reid : it was discussed that in an independent Scotland and a renationalised royal mail that a position would be made for a representative of the cwu on the board of directors how would the Scottish government look into ensuring that said member would not act in the interest of there own gain
Michael Mathieson : the position on the board of directors will be made for the representative of the cwu but it will be up to the members of that union to elect a person to assume that role then it will be presented to the cabinet for approval if for some reason that person was not acting on the interest of the company and its members an investigation would begin and that person would be removed . it is the belief that this procedure would lead to better working conditions and more efficiency with in royal mail as it dose with in companies in Germany
David Reid : will there be any jobs cuts at the beginning of the Scottish governments control of royal mail
Michael Mathieson : it has all ways been the Scottish government under the snp to ensure that no job cuts take place with in out government departments so we would seek to ensure that there would be no job cuts at royal mail
David Reid: would the Scottish government and local authorities { council } return to using royal mail as an end to end service after renationalisation
Michael Mathieson : this is more than possible we already implements a protocol where you relay on local contractors before looking else where with in certain departments of the government and it would be something we could look at to ensure the viability of royal mail remains strong
for royal mail to begin is journey to renationalisation we first have to get a yes verdict from next weeks referendum election after this happens we can start work on government policy and bringing a better level of service to the people of Scotland not just in the sense of royal mail but also the nhs and welfare a government who is unable to create policy cant achieve a better future for its people
Thanks all who took the time to read till the end this discussion I had with Michael Mathieson gives no promises but aspirations to bring about good for Scotland
little meeting with Michael Mathieson msp Falkirk west and member of the Scottish cabinet
regarding royal mail renationalisation
The snp seek to deliver independence to Scotland and secure the next Scottish election in 2016 putting them as the first elected government of an independent
David Reid : what will the time frame be to renationalise royal mail
Michael Mathieson : snp have outlined that renationalising royal mail will be on their manifesto for the next election and they will actively work to complete this with in the four year term
David Reid : will the royal mail shares owned by postal workers be bought back at share price
Michael Mathieson : it will not be known what the eventual price will be but the buy back will be taken gradually over time
David Reid: how will an independent Scotland with a nationalised postal service ensure pay and conditions already set out
Michael Mathieson : nothing will change in that regard in fact the Scottish government has a good record dealing with the unions and ensuring terms are agreed .. recently we have seen the fire service and nurse strike in England however we have not seen the same action in Scotland this is because we have sat down with both sectors and agreed progress so in that way pay and conditions will continue as they do now
David Reid : will the Scottish government set policy within royal mail after its renationalisation
Michael Mathieson : we will create a platform that royal mail will have to work towards and in this way we can continue improving the service this is a protocol that is implemented with in nhs we give them a platform to work with
David Reid: what happens if royal mail dose not achieve the targeted platform set out by the Scottish government
Michael Mathieson : we will look into the workings of royal mail and see what the issues are if it is failing on the directors or managers they will have a time frame ensure that they work
David Reid : will royal mail be given an advantage over their competitors
Michael Mathieson : this would be an issue for and independent Scottish government to discuss but it would be with in the power of the Scottish government to do so for instance we could limit what they could do in Scotland via their licence
David Reid : would the Scottish government involve them selves in a renationalised royal mail regarding excessive levels of bullying and harassment
Michael Mathieson : they would obviously look to ensure that these kind of things can be resolved internally but how ever if it was seen that it was not being resolved then the Scottish government will look to bring in the same kind of whistle blowing service that operates with the nhs so to a degree we will get involved
David Reid : would the snp lead Scottish government go a head with plans to renationalise royal mail if the workers wanted it to remain a private company
Michael Mathieson : it has all ways been snps policy to renationalise royal mail and ensure the long term security of the jobs and royal mails commitment to the public to provide a quality service how ever it is the only party to commit its self to this cause
David Reid : will royal mail have any connection to an ruk royal mail
Michael Mathieson : after yes the Scottish government will take its shares of royal mail and its procedures will remain the same so we will have the connection with the postal service down south but will not have any other link other than to operate the mail efficiently
David Reid : will there be a shake up of managers jobs
Michael Mathieson : it has all ways been the decisions by the Scottish government to down size top heavy management in the departments of the government when we took charge of the nhs we give them the task of down sizing its management by 20% and it has achieved this target s in this sense the government would look into reducing the number of managers with in royal mail by the same rate and would look at performance to do so it is our belief to be as efficient as possible
David Reid : it was discussed that in an independent Scotland and a renationalised royal mail that a position would be made for a representative of the cwu on the board of directors how would the Scottish government look into ensuring that said member would not act in the interest of there own gain
Michael Mathieson : the position on the board of directors will be made for the representative of the cwu but it will be up to the members of that union to elect a person to assume that role then it will be presented to the cabinet for approval if for some reason that person was not acting on the interest of the company and its members an investigation would begin and that person would be removed . it is the belief that this procedure would lead to better working conditions and more efficiency with in royal mail as it dose with in companies in Germany
David Reid : will there be any jobs cuts at the beginning of the Scottish governments control of royal mail
Michael Mathieson : it has all ways been the Scottish government under the snp to ensure that no job cuts take place with in out government departments so we would seek to ensure that there would be no job cuts at royal mail
David Reid: would the Scottish government and local authorities { council } return to using royal mail as an end to end service after renationalisation
Michael Mathieson : this is more than possible we already implements a protocol where you relay on local contractors before looking else where with in certain departments of the government and it would be something we could look at to ensure the viability of royal mail remains strong
for royal mail to begin is journey to renationalisation we first have to get a yes verdict from next weeks referendum election after this happens we can start work on government policy and bringing a better level of service to the people of Scotland not just in the sense of royal mail but also the nhs and welfare a government who is unable to create policy cant achieve a better future for its people
Thanks all who took the time to read till the end this discussion I had with Michael Mathieson gives no promises but aspirations to bring about good for Scotland
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Surreypostie
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Re: Renationalised scottish r mail .
It's going to be a no vote so it's all irrelevant.
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krussel
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Re: Renationalised scottish r mail .
Trouble is how can they ever make a profit.
The DP's are so spread out you would be looking at £1 a stamp to make it pay ?
The DP's are so spread out you would be looking at £1 a stamp to make it pay ?
Rows of houses all bearing down on me........I can feel their blue hands touching me.......All these things in all positions.........All these things will one day take control..........
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KLL
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Re: Renationalised scottish r mail .
SNP are just tickling ears...say whatever needs to be said in order to gain Yes votes.
Us No voters all know you can not trust a man who admires Putin and wants to be just like him...A dictator in the making. A yes vote will give Slimey Salmon just want he wants - Power (something I don't think he will give up easily). Re-nationalising RM is all a big con as many people have already stated in other posts there is no profit this side of the border so what would be the point!
Vote No!
Us No voters all know you can not trust a man who admires Putin and wants to be just like him...A dictator in the making. A yes vote will give Slimey Salmon just want he wants - Power (something I don't think he will give up easily). Re-nationalising RM is all a big con as many people have already stated in other posts there is no profit this side of the border so what would be the point!
Vote No!
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Chelseablue
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Re: Renationalised scottish r mail .
All my scots friends are voting yes .
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KLL
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Re: Renationalised scottish r mail .
Chelseablue wrote:All my scots friends are voting yes .
All mine are voting No
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cyrus
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Re: Renationalised scottish r mail .
"there is no profit this side of the border so what would be the point...." errr it's a public service it's not run for profit.....vote yes red tory's out...Putin's a far better leader than Cameron.
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newtimes
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Re: Renationalised scottish r mail .
Can see now why CWU is promoting a No vote, their political master have told them. But why any postie objects to this I can not understand.
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KLL
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Re: Renationalised scottish r mail .
Errr so who cares. Private company or not. It's not making money it ain't worth having!cyrus wrote:"there is no profit this side of the border so what would be the point...." errr it's a public service it's not run for profit.....vote yes red tory's out...Putin's a far better leader than Cameron.
I will be sticking to a No vote regardless
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cyrus
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Re: Renationalised scottish r mail .
Tory ideology right there...NHS doesn't make money, public transport doesn't make money,community centers don't make money. they're run for the benefit of the public...Vote yes for a rejection of the three neo liberal parties who are just offer the same narrow spectrum of ideas.KLL wrote:Errr so who cares. Private company or not. It's not making money it ain't worth having!cyrus wrote:"there is no profit this side of the border so what would be the point...." errr it's a public service it's not run for profit.....vote yes red tory's out...Putin's a far better leader than Cameron.
I will be sticking to a No vote regardless
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KLL
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Re: Renationalised scottish r mail .
cyrus wrote:Tory ideology right there...NHS doesn't make money, public transport doesn't make money,community centers don't make money. they're run for the benefit of the public...Vote yes for a rejection of the three neo liberal parties who are just offer the same narrow spectrum of ideas.KLL wrote:Errr so who cares. Private company or not. It's not making money it ain't worth having!cyrus wrote:"there is no profit this side of the border so what would be the point...." errr it's a public service it's not run for profit.....vote yes red tory's out...Putin's a far better leader than Cameron.
I will be sticking to a No vote regardless
I'm just commenting on RM as the thread is about re-nationalising RM.
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Newbie001
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Re: Renationalised scottish r mail .
SNP promised.Chelseablue wrote:Will scotland as promised go back to being in the public hands if there's a vote yes?
Even if there is a Yes vote. It would totally depend on which ever party won the Scotland elections in 2016. I wouldn't imagine anything will change anytime soon.