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Part-timer wants Xmas casual job for extra hours
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Reallywheelie
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Part-timer wants Xmas casual job for extra hours
Hello, I've been a Postwoman for just over three months. I'm new to this forum so please forgive any forum mistakes. I have a 24 hour contract and really need more hours. So, with Christmas approaching, I thought I'd be able to get some extra hours on a Sunday at a nearby Mail Centre over the Christmas period. Achieving this goal is proving harder than I envisaged. Does anyone have any experience of this situation? Should my manager phone the Mail Centre? Should I phone the Mail Centre? Should I apply for a Christmas Casual job online? Any advice appreciated. Thank you.
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travisbickle
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Re: Part-timer wants Xmas casual job for extra hours
Not done it myself but a few colleague work afternoons/evenings at our mail centre at xmas time, they just rang up the mail centre and it went from there.Reallywheelie wrote:Hello, I've been a Postwoman for just over three months. I'm new to this forum so please forgive any forum mistakes. I have a 24 hour contract and really need more hours. So, with Christmas approaching, I thought I'd be able to get some extra hours on a Sunday at a nearby Mail Centre over the Christmas period. Achieving this goal is proving harder than I envisaged. Does anyone have any experience of this situation? Should my manager phone the Mail Centre? Should I phone the Mail Centre? Should I apply for a Christmas Casual job online? Any advice appreciated. Thank you.
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Re: Part-timer wants Xmas casual job for extra hours
You could also make your own manager aware that you are wiling to do other overtime, working days off etc.
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korky
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Re: Part-timer wants Xmas casual job for extra hours
i'm guessing that you don't usually do any sorting at your current d/o,
is all you round fully prepped when you start now?
if not offer subtle hints that you can start earlier on o/t now, its cheaper as they'll be no overtime premium (for what that's worth) paying others to do it.
through my experience overtime is as much as you want this period, but much easier indoors or stay out late just doing parcels.
unless you're fit, doing more walking will lead to a miserable xmas as you'll be ballaxed
is all you round fully prepped when you start now?
if not offer subtle hints that you can start earlier on o/t now, its cheaper as they'll be no overtime premium (for what that's worth) paying others to do it.
through my experience overtime is as much as you want this period, but much easier indoors or stay out late just doing parcels.
unless you're fit, doing more walking will lead to a miserable xmas as you'll be ballaxed
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dvbuk55
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Re: Part-timer wants Xmas casual job for extra hours
Pre revisions it was pretty common for delivery staff to go sorting at the mail centres but now the later deliveries means people don't want to do it.
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Reallywheelie
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Re: Part-timer wants Xmas casual job for extra hours
Thanks for the comments so far. My manager knows I'm looking for more hours. However, I am the newest member of staff at my DO so I assume that I am bottom of the pile when it comes to extra hours? To be fair, I do get a few extra hours here and there but it's still not enough. I'm trained on three different duties, and when I'm on one of them I always start at 7am, but I'll ask if I can do the same on the others. I thought the manager would jump at the chance of me working at another mail centre on a short-term casual xmas contract as Royal Mail could pay me less for that job! But maybe it doesn't work like that?
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Justanotherstar
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Re: Part-timer wants Xmas casual job for extra hours
I go into the Mail Centre for Overtime (only on a 10 hour contract)...just call up the offices SR and tell them you want to do overtime there and what hours...
You need your manager to Email them with your details first though :)
You need your manager to Email them with your details first though :)
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Reallywheelie
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Re: Part-timer wants Xmas casual job for extra hours
Sorry, what's "SR"?
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rick184
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Re: Part-timer wants Xmas casual job for extra hours
Find out who the staff resourcing manager us at the Mail centre and email/phone him/her. Keep your DOM in the loop as there will need to be a PSP entry in your office to pay your overtime.
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chrisj
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Re: Part-timer wants Xmas casual job for extra hours
If you want something really steady then you should apply online for the seasonal xmas casuals and you will be working for RM through Angard - I think?
Although some people say that RM are now doing their own recruiting instead of using Angard - I am not sure. The pay rate will definitely be much lower than working overtime as a delivery posties in a Mail Centre.
I have tried the Mail Centre overtime thing in the past but it helps if your DO is attached to the Mail Centre otherwise the OT goes to the MC staff first, Delivery officers within the SpDO(?), some regular and favoured Temporary staff and then you might get some scraps, if lucky.
You will most likely get more overtime at Xmas time but it might not be consistent - it depends on your office make up and staffing levels, your flexibility and adaptability as regards working different rounds on OT extra delivery. Also, you might be asked to come in regularly early to throw off your own walk and there are extra packets to done... Options?
Although some people say that RM are now doing their own recruiting instead of using Angard - I am not sure. The pay rate will definitely be much lower than working overtime as a delivery posties in a Mail Centre.
I have tried the Mail Centre overtime thing in the past but it helps if your DO is attached to the Mail Centre otherwise the OT goes to the MC staff first, Delivery officers within the SpDO(?), some regular and favoured Temporary staff and then you might get some scraps, if lucky.
You will most likely get more overtime at Xmas time but it might not be consistent - it depends on your office make up and staffing levels, your flexibility and adaptability as regards working different rounds on OT extra delivery. Also, you might be asked to come in regularly early to throw off your own walk and there are extra packets to done... Options?
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eggraidonmojo
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Re: Part-timer wants Xmas casual job for extra hours
You're not bottom of the pile, although sometimes it can be hard for part timers to get overtime (for example it is annoying to do early morning sorting for an hour and then not start your duty until an hour or so after you've finished your OT!). Most offices have some kind of system for allotting overtime which - in theory - is fair to everyone, regardless of seniority.Reallywheelie wrote:Thanks for the comments so far. My manager knows I'm looking for more hours. However, I am the newest member of staff at my DO so I assume that I am bottom of the pile when it comes to extra hours?
See if your office has any sheets you can put your name down on (rest day working sheet, early morning overtime, overtime volunteers to cover cut-offs/packets). I know this isn't mail centre work, but usually there is a fair amount of it around at this time of year and in the run-up to xmas.
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Justanotherstar
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Re: Part-timer wants Xmas casual job for extra hours
Reallywheelie wrote:Sorry, what's "SR"?
Sorry lol, Staff resourcing
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Reallywheelie
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Re: Part-timer wants Xmas casual job for extra hours
I've tried applying online for the Xmas casual job but the system won't let me go further than registering interest in the job. The system just keep showing my current 24 hour contract recruitment details and won't let me apply for this other role! Looks like I'll have to wait till Monday to try and contact the Xmas recruitment person at the mail centre - once I've found out who that is! I want to work more hours...Royal Mail need more staff...This should be easy...argh. p.s. apart from this issue I'm very happy with my new job as a postie :)
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Reallywheelie
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Re: Part-timer wants Xmas casual job for extra hours
Just an update, in case you know anyone else in the same situation...
So, it turns out that I can't apply for a Christmas Casual post if I am already employed by Royal Mail - even if I'm only part time - as I can't have two pay numbers. The only way to try and get more hours over the Christmas period (and I'm assuming at any time) is for my manager to come to an agreement with the Mail Centre manager - it's a local-to-local agreement. I do hope some arrangement is made otherwise I do think this is a very odd situation to discriminate against your own staff - as they are actively advertising for staff. I am, of course, free to apply to any other company for part time work - but I want to do my extra hours for the company I currently support!
So, it turns out that I can't apply for a Christmas Casual post if I am already employed by Royal Mail - even if I'm only part time - as I can't have two pay numbers. The only way to try and get more hours over the Christmas period (and I'm assuming at any time) is for my manager to come to an agreement with the Mail Centre manager - it's a local-to-local agreement. I do hope some arrangement is made otherwise I do think this is a very odd situation to discriminate against your own staff - as they are actively advertising for staff. I am, of course, free to apply to any other company for part time work - but I want to do my extra hours for the company I currently support!
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Reallywheelie
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Re: Part-timer wants Xmas casual job for extra hours
Final update: I never managed to get extra hours over Christmas at any mail centres. I'm still flummoxed by this but hey ho, nowt I can do now. However, I did manage to get extra hours by volunteering to do Sunday collections during December - so all was not lost :)