Designated Driver

[Lazycarton]

When you have a revision there is what is called a designated driver? How are these chosen?

[ysbrydtawel]

You mean on a shared van round? If so, the side of the van share you choose will either be driver or passenger.

[Hitcher]

The drivers delivery will have less mail as well to make time for van checks, etc.

[korky]

When you have a revision there is what is called a designated driver? How are these chosen?

seniority again, don't forget there are quite a few who don't/can't drive,
i.e a duty gets picked by a non driver 1st, the paired duty must then be a driver.
never heard of "designated" driver apart from the pub crawl, if both on duty can drive then 1st back can do nearby parcels, simple

[fishtank]

if both on duty can drive then 1st back can do nearby parcels, simple

Pronlem with that is the Road Traffic Act and Royal Mail's own rules.
The road traffic act states that the only person who can drive the vehicle is the person who's name appears last in the log book, Royal Mail's own rules state that before you can take ownership of any vehicle by log book transfer you have to do at least a duty level vehicle check to acertain roadworthiness.

So you can imagine the scenario...

[Bahia Feliz]

The road traffic act states that the only person who can drive the vehicle is the person who's name appears last in the log book

What if that person is off the next day?

[IloveMYredTROLLEY!]

There is at least one P&L walk in our depot where swapping who does the driving is actively encouraged for one loop, because otherwise both the official driver and passenger finish delivering a couple of minutes away from the van, due to the position of delivery points on that road. So the driver's loop is tied up backwards and the driver is dropped off by the passenger at what would normally be the loop end, the passenger then parks up inbetween the loops and delivers normally and is then picked up by the official driver at the end of the passenger loop!

They have been given a heads up about the likely outcome if for instance the passenger has an accident while behind the wheel, but there quest for speed cannot be resisted! They have an extra section of lapsing these days compared to previous years.

[Postie45]

When you have a revision there is what is called a designated driver? How are these chosen?

whoever passes the breathalyser

[korky]

if both on duty can drive then 1st back can do nearby parcels, simple

Pronlem with that is the Road Traffic Act and Royal Mail's own rules.
The road traffic act states that the only person who can drive the vehicle is the person who's name appears last in the log book, Royal Mail's own rules state that before you can take ownership of any vehicle by log book transfer you have to do at least a duty level vehicle check to acertain roadworthiness.

So you can imagine the scenario...

a mate at work was covering a duty with another driver recently
he told me EVERY TIME he got back after a loop and knew he'd done a parcel he'd do a van check!
yeah probably correct but

[IcanthelpthewayIam]

The road traffic act states that the only person who can drive the vehicle is the person who's name appears last in the log book

That is potentially quite interesting, never heard that before where about exactly is that in the Road Traffic Act?

[Lazycarton]

So whoever has been there longest can choose to be the driver or it is automatically given to them?

[IcanthelpthewayIam]

So whoever has been there longest can choose to be the driver or it is automatically given to them?

When the duties go up for picking, each goes up seperately and they should go up as driver duty and passenger duty, each should have the different loops/duty make ups etc on the new larger combined round , and then duties are picked by seniority, so when picking the person will have selected either the driver or passenger duty

[fishtank]

The road traffic act states that the only person who can drive the vehicle is the person who's name appears last in the log book

That is potentially quite interesting, never heard that before where about exactly is that in the Road Traffic Act?

I was kind of paraphrasing but the official Royal Mail position is this....

Under Section 172 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 Royal Mail has a legal obligation to provide, when required, details on the identity of any driver using a vehicle at a particular time. In order to fulfil this obligation, the Vehicle Condition & Mileage Logbook (the logbook) will be used as the primary day-to-day control record.

For the purposes of the Road Traffic Act 1988, the driver whose name is last recorded in the logbook will be considered responsible for the roadworthiness and security of the vehicle until responsibility is transferred to the next driver by signature in the logbook.

Although the act itself does not state in black and white that you have to sign a log book it does require companies to have adequate control measures in place to identify drivers, the control measure Royal Mail chooses is the log book.

[Rumple]

When you have a revision there is what is called a designated driver? How are these chosen?

whoever passes the breathalyser

[dohnut]

The drivers delivery will have less mail as well to make time for van checks, etc.

YEAH right