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Management throwing off rounds for lapsing

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eastie
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Management throwing off rounds for lapsing

Post by eastie »

Why aren't the union doing anything about management throwing off rounds for lapsing including D2D's, sorting parcels and IPS, aren't they supposed to be doing their jobs??
or are they only interested in massaging the figures and their bonuses
clashcityrocker
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Re: Management throwing off rounds for lapsing

Post by clashcityrocker »

Why aren't the union doing anything - good question.

Possibly because they are drivers and don't actually see what is going on.
Some union reps are against any lapsing and consequently when it happens they aren't in a position to negotiate anything about it.
Maybe they are just poorly trained.

IPS, prep, D2D - this is all our work.
The less work we have the less jobs we have.
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celerycelery
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Re: Management throwing off rounds for lapsing

Post by celerycelery »

What do you want the reps to do about? What can the reps actually do about it? Our rep has gone to disagreement over this more than once that I'm aware of and it still happens. Dsm says it shouldn't happen, Dom says it shouldn't happen but it still does. Apart from the whole office stopping work if it happens then I really can't see what else anyone can do.
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Re: Management throwing off rounds for lapsing

Post by clashcityrocker »

celerycelery wrote:What do you want the reps to do about? What can the reps actually do about it? Our rep has gone to disagreement over this more than once that I'm aware of and it still happens. Dsm says it shouldn't happen, Dom says it shouldn't happen but it still does. Apart from the whole office stopping work if it happens then I really can't see what else anyone can do.
The resourcing meeting should ensure the resources to do the work are in place without managers "helping".
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
raikky
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Re: Management throwing off rounds for lapsing

Post by raikky »

our manager was prepping d2d on Saturday in all of the 4 walks we collapse. 4 - 6 contracts in each one. lol. oh yeah and today it was very busy and they were walking all day. then in the morning he will pour his heart out to us like we should feel sorry for them.
Dee Plish
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Re: Management throwing off rounds for lapsing

Post by Dee Plish »

So, if this business was run properly, senior management would think...

We're paying £35k a year for people with lots of spare time to fill, to do work we could get a part time opg to do for £12k a year. Revise management duties to be more efficient and effective without all the spare time they have, reduce management by say 2 per office, save £70k. Employ 2 P/T opg's @ £24k. Saving for the business = £46k a year. Multiply that by say 200 offices, save £9.2 million a year!! Back of a fag packet calculation but so realistic !!!

However, as we exist in the management gravy train that is Royal Mail, the above does not apply. So much for saving money and improving efficiency being so essential for the business.

The Stock Market should be informed.
beezet
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Re: Management throwing off rounds for lapsing

Post by beezet »

Hear Hear :Applause
Darren Bent
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Re: Management throwing off rounds for lapsing

Post by Darren Bent »

Just send a letter to right guy or lady to companies who buy shares for investment firms.
Jpro747
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Re: Management throwing off rounds for lapsing

Post by Jpro747 »

The union just dont give a f... anymore, as long as the subs are still coming in.
leadseal
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Re: Management throwing off rounds for lapsing

Post by leadseal »

Dee Plish wrote:So, if this business was run properly, senior management would think...

We're paying £35k a year for people with lots of spare time to fill, to do work we could get a part time opg to do for £12k a year. Revise management duties to be more efficient and effective without all the spare time they have, reduce management by say 2 per office, save £70k. Employ 2 P/T opg's @ £24k. Saving for the business = £46k a year. Multiply that by say 200 offices, save £9.2 million a year!! Back of a fag packet calculation but so realistic !!!

However, as we exist in the management gravy train that is Royal Mail, the above does not apply. So much for saving money and improving efficiency being so essential for the business.

The Stock Market should be informed.
Not for too much longer, I should imagine.
Postie45
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Re: Management throwing off rounds for lapsing

Post by Postie45 »

Jpro747 wrote:The union just dont give a f... anymore, as long as the subs are still coming in.
better the devil you know, can you really imagine what RM would do if there was no union ?