gross misconduct

[qpd]

not beating about bush, should you be dissmissed for signing for recorded mail, using own name on more than one occasion, considering no malice, theft, wilful delay, but stupid in the fact that you thought you were do a service however misguided, no criminal act. further would it be prudent to jump before pushed pro and cons, thanks for any advice. concerned parent...

[IcanthelpthewayIam]

not beating about bush, should you be dissmissed for signing for recorded mail, using own name on more than one occasion, considering no malice, theft, wilful delay, but stupid in the fact that you thought you were do a service however misguided, no criminal act. further would it be prudent to jump before pushed pro and cons, thanks for any advice. concerned parent...

whats the person concerned's sick record, accident record and have they had any previous conduct issues at all even if completely unrelated? also are they Full Time, Part time and how many years service? and has an item now gone missing that they signed for or is it just a customer complaint?

[rehabron]

not beating about bush, should you be dissmissed for signing for recorded mail, using own name on more than one occasion, considering no malice, theft, wilful delay, but stupid in the fact that you thought you were do a service however misguided, no criminal act. further would it be prudent to jump before pushed pro and cons, thanks for any advice. concerned parent...

You will be fully aware that RM is advocating first attempt delivery but there are procedures in place and signing for customers recorded delivery is not one of them.
At least you had the common sense to sign for it using your own name and not that of the addressee and as you have stated however misguided you were thinking of the customer first however you have not mentioned if there is a case against you pending but I would be using the RM policy that is in place instead of your customer obliging system that you are operating which could come to a disciplinary.

[clashcityrocker]

Signing for letters yourself is a breach of the mail security and as such is a sackable offence. (Whether it should be is irrelevant at this point)
You could be dismissed if they want to dismiss you. As zx asks, if you have other issues, they are more likely to sack you.

If you have another job to go to, it would be better to jump in my opinion.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Should they be dismissed - probably not but its certainly possible. Previous disciplinary history would probably have a bearing on the likelihood. However, signing for a residents mail is considered as Gross Misconduct because its against the Security rules we sign every year,

We even have one case on here of a resident writing to the manager of a Postman who signed for her recorded item, she wanted to thank him. Royal Mail dismissed the postman. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z0dti8jJ7y" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

As to jumping - that's their decision its possible they may just get a serious warning, or a suspended dismissal, but if their manager is looking for an easy way to reduce the number of posties, then they have just given him one.


Good luck to your son/daughter, I hope it all works out.

[Lincox]

TB, I have never signed any security rules in 11 years since I went to an induction course. Never been asked to and neither has anyone else in our SPDO. Whats the crack.

[celerycelery]

Ffs, this and other thread regarding not wearing seat belt. Are people thick? What benefit does it gain anyone working for rm to sign for something or not wear a seatbelt? It baffles me, it really does.

[IloveMYredTROLLEY!]

Ffs, this and other thread regarding not wearing seat belt. Are people thick? What benefit does it gain anyone working for rm to sign for something or not wear a seatbelt? It baffles me, it really does.

Time. The workload becomes more achievable.

Just like those who start more than a minute or two early.

Just like those who do not utilise or claim their paid meal relief.

Just like those HCT users that lock up the trolley and deliver sections by pouch.

Just like those who leave parcels in insecure areas like an unlocked porch when there is no answer.

Many OPGs are their own worst enemies, looking no further than the next early finish, rather than playing the long game (bigger walks, more job losses) like a chess grand master.

[rick184]

Be truthful, admit and regret. Explain that you were not dishonest as you used your own name. If you have a clear conduct record I would expect action just short of dismissal. However, if you're a pain in the ass to your DOM he/she may well grasp the opportunity.

[blackadder]

Ffs, this and other thread regarding not wearing seat belt. Are people thick? What benefit does it gain anyone working for rm to sign for something or not wear a seatbelt? It baffles me, it really does.

every single one of us on here has done something wrong. in the good old days we could drive without seatbelts and dare i say it sign packets for customers who wernt in and post it. but them days are gone, public service is a dirty word. r.m. want your job and driving without a seatbelt and signing for stuff just gives them the ammunition to sack you