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managers doing work of postie's

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NewUnitRep
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managers doing work of postie's

Post by NewUnitRep »

Should management unload lorries? Push York'd mail in? Sort tray'd mail out etc.? Or should all of this work be done daily by postie's? Its just that recently management have been doing this to get us out earlier so we do more lapsing. Should i stop them? And how?
whisperstar24
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Re: managers doing work of postie's

Post by whisperstar24 »

yes disagreement by your local rep as management should not being doing opg work
NewUnitRep
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Post by NewUnitRep »

Cheers. But who says what is posties work and what isn't? I mean in a delivery office (indoor work)
Lounge Lizard
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Post by Lounge Lizard »

I suspect that the average Delivery office has twice the number of managers it needs and so they spend half their time doing post(wo)man's work. :sad:
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Post by IcanthelpthewayIam »

NewUnitRep wrote:Cheers. But who says what is posties work and what isn't? I mean in a delivery office (indoor work)
basically if its anything to do with the sorting and delivery of the mail they shouldnt be doing it, they are there to manage, so moving yorks, putting d2ds out puting boxes of mail on frames are all posties jobs, if a manager is doing it, they are directly taking money out of the pocket of posties
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Post by silly suffolk »

this endless argument over managers doing rank and file work. im opposed to it, but stopping it is another matter if fellow union members don't perceive it as a problem. I know of some offices where opg's stand away from the frame if managers sort, but these are few and far between. you can bet your bottom dollar that a manager has been told to do rank and file work by their superiors, and there's bound to be an agreement to say in an emergency , uso under threat , dispatch likely to fail, that they can do said work. I tend to make a note of how much work managers do, then when the inevitable round of revisions/cost cutting comes along use it in negotiating . but at the end of the day these managers are just doing themselves out of a job, and will be opg's permanently soon.
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NewUnitRep wrote:Should management unload lorries? Push York'd mail in? Sort tray'd mail out etc.? Or should all of this work be done daily by postie's? Its just that recently management have been doing this to get us out earlier so we do more lapsing. Should i stop them? And how?
Hello,I think it's good that doms muck in and help out,it makes my job easer..
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Post by IcanthelpthewayIam »

oldrope wrote:
NewUnitRep wrote:Should management unload lorries? Push York'd mail in? Sort tray'd mail out etc.? Or should all of this work be done daily by postie's? Its just that recently management have been doing this to get us out earlier so we do more lapsing. Should i stop them? And how?
Hello,I think it's good that doms muck in and help out,it makes my job easer..

basically though it takes money out of other posties pockets.
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Re: managers doing work of postie's

Post by freelunch »

Experienced several jobs where managers ought not to be doing the work of employees they're in charge of.
Postman isn't one of them.
"Everybody has a plan.. until they get punched in the face" - Mike Tyson
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Post by Luke Skywalker »

I've got managers throwing off my walk before I get in. When I asked if I could come in earlier on overtime the answer is no.
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Post by lollollol »

Luke Skywalker wrote:I've got managers throwing off my walk before I get in. When I asked if I could come in earlier on overtime the answer is no.
That's a clear case for a grievance...
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Post by Billy Ray »

if a manager was working in my office everyone would stop and let them at it cause it wouldnt be too long till they catch on and wouldnt do it again lol