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TrueBlueTerrier
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Right first thing, if they wish for you to forecast your overtime on a daily basis then fine. That makes not one iota of difference under employment legislation.
When you get back you simply book the hours worked (ON THE DAY) If the manager refuses he will be committing fraud and a fundamental breach of your contract of employment.
This is subject to unlawful deduction of wages under Section 13 Employment Rights Act. There is no agreed process or contractual obligation to forecast overtime.
Now the legal stuff for our more experienced reps
Article 157 Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union (TFEU) gives explicit reference to equal pay for equal work.
Article 157 TFEU has been incorporated into individual member states through the Equal Treatment Directive 2006/54/EC
Part time workers have protection under Part-time Workers (Prevention of Less Favourable Treatment) Regulations 2000
All employees now have protection as to employment under the Employment Rights Act 1996 (as amended)
If you are refused the overtime you put in a grievance as to unlawful deduction of wages
Where are the reps?? Why no Disagreement as soon as they tried this process outside the IR Procedure??
WHERE IS HQ, WHERE IS UNCLE BOB??
Right first thing, if they wish for you to forecast your overtime on a daily basis then fine. That makes not one iota of difference under employment legislation.
When you get back you simply book the hours worked (ON THE DAY) If the manager refuses he will be committing fraud and a fundamental breach of your contract of employment.
This is subject to unlawful deduction of wages under Section 13 Employment Rights Act. There is no agreed process or contractual obligation to forecast overtime.
Now the legal stuff for our more experienced reps
Article 157 Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union (TFEU) gives explicit reference to equal pay for equal work.
Article 157 TFEU has been incorporated into individual member states through the Equal Treatment Directive 2006/54/EC
Part time workers have protection under Part-time Workers (Prevention of Less Favourable Treatment) Regulations 2000
All employees now have protection as to employment under the Employment Rights Act 1996 (as amended)
If you are refused the overtime you put in a grievance as to unlawful deduction of wages
Where are the reps?? Why no Disagreement as soon as they tried this process outside the IR Procedure??
WHERE IS HQ, WHERE IS UNCLE BOB??
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gand
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Re: FB Post Overtime and forecasting Bovine Excrement: Disc
This is what has happened to me on a few occasions in my office when I say I'm owed overtime they tell me I'm not being payed as the figures don't say I can have overtime. I'm on a stage two grievance about overtime owed which they have ingnored so far.
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eian687
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Re: FB Post Overtime and forecasting Bovine Excrement: Disc
we have been told no ot. if we do book it has to be authorised by a director 
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worktotime
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Re: FB Post Overtime and forecasting Bovine Excrement: Disc
that's easy solved finish on time , even at xmas when they are quite prepared to pay you till stupid o clock. f**k them now.
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gand
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Re: FB Post Overtime and forecasting Bovine Excrement: Disc
Whish I was on Facebook so I could read the comments 
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coxie
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Re: FB Post Overtime and forecasting Bovine Excrement: Disc
He's a clever man that Keith , helped me out a few times, I told him to get on here.
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: FB Post Overtime and forecasting Bovine Excrement: Disc
coxie wrote:He's a clever man that Keith , helped me out a few times, I told him to get on here.
Although he hates people commenting without backing up their facts, or those that make comments based on ignorance. Not sure if he would get on with some of our more challenging members.
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BoltonPostie
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Re: FB Post Overtime and forecasting Bovine Excrement: Disc
Not a fan of his to be honest,too far up his own ass at times and comes across as a little too smug for me,but each to their own. 
The grabbing hands
Grab all they can
All for themselves
After all
Grab all they can
All for themselves
After all
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gand
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Re: FB Post Overtime and forecasting Bovine Excrement: Disc
All I need to know is. Is what he says a fact in law? Because if so my manger,Dom and DSM have got some questions to answer
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gand
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Re: FB Post Overtime and forecasting Bovine Excrement: Disc
Forget the last post just read section 13 
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Nigel1505
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Re: FB Post Overtime and forecasting Bovine Excrement: Disc
You're lucky if your DOM knows employment law, our doesn't know what day of the week it is most of the time. He spends most of his time throwing up uncovered walks. 
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k979aaa
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Re: FB Post Overtime and forecasting Bovine Excrement: Disc
Can he read well ours just grunts and scratches his nut's all day.Nigel1505 wrote:You're lucky if your DOM knows employment law, our doesn't know what day of the week it is most of the time. He spends most of his time throwing up uncovered walks.
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BoltonPostie
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Re: FB Post Overtime and forecasting Bovine Excrement: Disc
Almond or Brazil?k979aaa wrote:Can he read well ours just grunts and scratches his nut's all day.Nigel1505 wrote:You're lucky if your DOM knows employment law, our doesn't know what day of the week it is most of the time. He spends most of his time throwing up uncovered walks.
The grabbing hands
Grab all they can
All for themselves
After all
Grab all they can
All for themselves
After all
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: FB Post Overtime and forecasting Bovine Excrement: Disc
Probably gingerBoltonPostie wrote:Almond or Brazil?k979aaa wrote:Can he read well ours just grunts and scratches his nut's all day.Nigel1505 wrote:You're lucky if your DOM knows employment law, our doesn't know what day of the week it is most of the time. He spends most of his time throwing up uncovered walks.
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pants123
Re: FB Post Overtime and forecasting Bovine Excrement: Disc
worktotime wrote:that's easy solved finish on time , even at xmas when they are quite prepared to pay you till stupid o clock. f**k them now.