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Privatisation starts to hit home....

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OnAFlyer
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Privatisation starts to hit home....

Post by OnAFlyer »

So, we had a visit today from an area/sector manager or whoever he was. He had a walk around the office, asking people how lapsing was going, then pointing to the frames, started talking about TNT deliveries and how those frames will have nothing in them in 2 years time.

Then he mentions loads of staff on temporary contracts are being laid off in the next couple of weeks.

A couple of hours later all of the staff in our office on temporary contracts have been given 2 weeks notice :shock: several of them have got just under 2 years service in, the point at which they would/should have been given permanent contracts.

We had every manager in the office out on delivery yesterday because we were so understaffed, and they've just got rid of 5% of the remaining staff.

What's the betting they take on a load of new staff in September, ones they can leave on temporary contracts then get rid of again?

Not only this but they are suspending and sacking people for minor things, for instance anyone failing two specials will be up in front of the DOM. At this rate in a few years time RM will have exactly what they want, a fully flexible part time workforce all on temporary contracts.
coxie
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Post by coxie »

It's so wrong, you're right they will do the same again and get rid of them just before the 2 years.
Gold Fox
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Post by Gold Fox »

I am not asking name your office but could please tell us your county ?
wannabeek
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Post by wannabeek »

Failing 2 specials and it's a visit to the dom? Why would he not be bothered the 1st time you fail a special? Nobody's failed a special at our place without having to give an explanation to the dom.

And that's not a new thing brought in since privatisation.
Nigel1505
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Post by Nigel1505 »

"we had a visit today from an area/sector manager". Think yourself lucky, We NEVER have anyone visit out our office before we go out, either RM or CWU so we do not have contact with anyone apart from our DOM. Things go on day to day which I know are not part of the last agreement so we never get a chance to air our views or grievances as we never get a huddle or meeting of any kind. Just a flyer telling us "Dogs bite" The suns hot" and "make sure you deliver first time" . Our union rep is next to useless, works in the locker so he doesn't give a F..k what happens on delivery as long as he is ok. Never worked for a company which doesn't give a toss for its employees. :arrrghhh
krussel
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Post by krussel »

OnAFlyer wrote: started talking about TNT deliveries and how those frames will have nothing in them in 2 years time.
This is a worry :hmmmm

I just don't know if TNT with its min wage no contract workers will every carry it off. Its one thing delivering pizza leaflets but something else delivering bank statements and passports. :hmmmm
Rows of houses all bearing down on me........I can feel their blue hands touching me.......All these things in all positions.........All these things will one day take control..........
k979aaa
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Post by k979aaa »

krussel wrote:
OnAFlyer wrote: started talking about TNT deliveries and how those frames will have nothing in them in 2 years time.
This is a worry :hmmmm

I just don't know if TNT with its min wage no contract workers will every carry it off. Its one thing delivering pizza leaflets but something else delivering bank statements and passports. :hmmmm
Most end up in the bushes or next door or stolen what have the minimum wage workers to lose feck all.
newspaper
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Post by newspaper »

All temporary full time back to part time here today to
chrisj
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Post by chrisj »

Embargo on all employment! Perhaps, the temporary contracts might continue but as highlighted, they will not allow temps to be permanent.

And the share price continue to nose dive!

RM &TNT colluding - what is that about? Very immoral these guardians of the free market.
korky
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Post by korky »

"A couple of hours later all of the staff in our office on temporary contracts have been given 2 weeks notice :shock: several of them have got just under 2 years service in, the point at which they would/should have been given permanent contracts.

We had every manager in the office out on delivery yesterday because we were so understaffed, and they've just got rid of 5% of the remaining staff."

would say involve the onion, but they're about as much use as a hot cocoa after work today.

2 weeks ago i was sat in canteen before my shift started and rep was spouting off about union protecting our jobs,
i instantly pointed out 2 managers prepping walks to him, he sat down and shut up, did nothing!
maisymoo04
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Post by maisymoo04 »

krussel wrote:
OnAFlyer wrote: started talking about TNT deliveries and how those frames will have nothing in them in 2 years time.
This is a worry :hmmmm

I just don't know if TNT with its min wage no contract workers will every carry it off. Its one thing delivering pizza leaflets but something else delivering bank statements and passports. :hmmmm
Don't deliver passports :dance
"Some day I will have the bottle to take the money"
krussel
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Post by krussel »

Yeah we do. Its the small brown envelopes . They contain returned passports. :Very Happy
Rows of houses all bearing down on me........I can feel their blue hands touching me.......All these things in all positions.........All these things will one day take control..........
Hitcher
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Post by Hitcher »

chrisj wrote:Embargo on all employment! Perhaps, the temporary contracts might continue but as highlighted, they will not allow temps to be permanent.

And the share price continue to nose dive!

RM &TNT colluding - what is that about? Very immoral these guardians of the free market.
Hitcher wrote:Due to have some new recruits starting soon but apparently they've been stopped from higher up. As a result DOM has stopped anymore AL for the rest of the year as we're short staffed.
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OnAFlyer
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Post by OnAFlyer »

wannabeek wrote:Failing 2 specials and it's a visit to the dom? Why would he not be bothered the 1st time you fail a special? Nobody's failed a special at our place without having to give an explanation to the dom.

And that's not a new thing brought in since privatisation.
Fail one and it's an explanation needed, fail two and it's disciplinary action possibly leading to dismissal.

Take one missort back to the office before your finish time and you'll be suspended for wilful delay.

Two have already been sacked and others suspended for minor stuff that would never have gone any further than a few words previously.
OnAFlyer
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Post by OnAFlyer »

korky wrote:"A couple of hours later all of the staff in our office on temporary contracts have been given 2 weeks notice :shock: several of them have got just under 2 years service in, the point at which they would/should have been given permanent contracts.

We had every manager in the office out on delivery yesterday because we were so understaffed, and they've just got rid of 5% of the remaining staff."

would say involve the onion, but they're about as much use as a hot cocoa after work today.

2 weeks ago i was sat in canteen before my shift started and rep was spouting off about union protecting our jobs,
i instantly pointed out 2 managers prepping walks to him, he sat down and shut up, did nothing!
We've got a really good rep, he's already got some staff made up from temporary FT to permanent, but there was nothing he could do about this. He talked with the manager for a significant amount of time trying to stop it.