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eastie
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delivering to neighbours

Post by eastie »

you fill out the 739 telling them that their parcel is with a neighbour and 3 times today they still bought them into the callers office to pick up a parcel and one gave the DOM an earful ... :left:
wannabeek
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Re: delivering to neighbours

Post by wannabeek »

Yeah, sometimes people just don't even glance at the card. A few weeks back I'd filled out a P739 not as you should, but just wrote in big letters in the address section of it which neighbour it was waiting for them at, even put a big 'X' over the rest of the card. He came and found me about 30 mins later waving the card at me and asking for his parcel! :crazy:
dave72
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Re: delivering to neighbours

Post by dave72 »

I had a delivery point shouting hell at me about the card through her letterbox and the parcel left next door who are now away for a few day. Wasn't even our P739 but a Parcleforce one :left:

She slammed the door muttering "same company, I'll complain" :left:
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Re: delivering to neighbours

Post by dave72 »

wannabeek wrote:Yeah, sometimes people just don't even glance at the card. A few weeks back I'd filled out a P739 not as you should, but just wrote in big letters in the address section of it which neighbour it was waiting for them at, even put a big 'X' over the rest of the card. He came and found me about 30 mins later waving the card at me and asking for his parcel! :crazy:
Did you give her the parcel? I never do :no no
redneck
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Re: delivering to neighbours

Post by redneck »

wannabeek wrote:Yeah, sometimes people just don't even glance at the card. A few weeks back I'd filled out a P739 not as you should, but just wrote in big letters in the address section of it which neighbour it was waiting for them at, even put a big 'X' over the rest of the card. He came and found me about 30 mins later waving the card at me and asking for his parcel! :crazy:
That's how I do it all the time, never a problem. It reads 'something for you - AT NO.?? NEXT DOOR'.Plus date and time and number of parcels. Simple and effective.
OnAFlyer
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Re: delivering to neighbours

Post by OnAFlyer »

dave72 wrote:
wannabeek wrote:Yeah, sometimes people just don't even glance at the card. A few weeks back I'd filled out a P739 not as you should, but just wrote in big letters in the address section of it which neighbour it was waiting for them at, even put a big 'X' over the rest of the card. He came and found me about 30 mins later waving the card at me and asking for his parcel! :crazy:
Did you give her the parcel? I never do :no no
Our DOM confirmed this week that if someone approaches you in the street with their 739 and ID, or 739 and it's someone you know, you should give them their parcel and that includes Specials.
Gold Fox
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Re: delivering to neighbours

Post by Gold Fox »

RM should design and print out new card and must be different colour.
villan
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Re: delivering to neighbours

Post by villan »

Anyone else seen the new P739 Notice Left stickers, which include "Deliver to neighbour attempted - YES/NO/OPT OUT"? I saw one for the first time in our office today.

How long will it be before the PDA interface changes to prompt you to attempt to deliver to neighbour when you click on "Not Delivered"?
wannabeek
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Re: delivering to neighbours

Post by wannabeek »

dave72 wrote:
wannabeek wrote:Yeah, sometimes people just don't even glance at the card. A few weeks back I'd filled out a P739 not as you should, but just wrote in big letters in the address section of it which neighbour it was waiting for them at, even put a big 'X' over the rest of the card. He came and found me about 30 mins later waving the card at me and asking for his parcel! :crazy:
Did you give her the parcel? I never do :no no
Erm... My point was that i didn't have the parcel, the neighbour did. I think maybe you read the post as accurately as he read the p739!
chrisj
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Re: delivering to neighbours

Post by chrisj »

I am not sure why a postie will categorically refuse to give a parcel or Signed For upon receipt of a P739 whilst still on the round - :crazy:

One of the objectives of DTN is to reduce complaints and enhance customer retention and RM reputation - we do not have to believe that 100% but they are valid points. So why be so obstructive to a customer?

If you know the customer and/or it is obvious that they could not have got the P739 any other way, then you should hand over their item and move on... And that is better than DTN in my view.

* Aside: attempted a delivery to a neighbour yesterday - unsuccessful; however, today, the house has gone all CSI and the most of street cordoned off. What do you make of that?
villan
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Re: delivering to neighbours

Post by villan »

chrisj wrote:I am not sure why a postie will categorically refuse to give a parcel or Signed For upon receipt of a P739 whilst still on the round - :crazy:

One of the objectives of DTN is to reduce complaints and enhance customer retention and RM reputation - we do not have to believe that 100% but they are valid points. So why be so obstructive to a customer?

If you know the customer and/or it is obvious that they could not have got the P739 any other way, then you should hand over their item and move on... And that is better than DTN in my view.

* Aside: attempted a delivery to a neighbour yesterday - unsuccessful; however, today, the house has gone all CSI and the most of street cordoned off. What do you make of that?
The RM Investigations team was probably dusting the doorbell and/or knocker for your fingerprints to check you really did attempt deliver to neighbour. Probably also interviewing neighbours to check for eye witnesses, and reviewing CCTV.
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Re: delivering to neighbours

Post by Sidley »

chrisj wrote:I am not sure why a postie will categorically refuse to give a parcel or Signed For upon receipt of a P739 whilst still on the round
The answer is because we have been told by management that under no circumstances do you give mail to anyone in the street, end of. They didn't even trot out their usual bullshit prevarication, you know the one, the phrase that absolves them of any blame while leaving you wide open to all sorts of aggro. "use your common sense"
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Re: delivering to neighbours

Post by Caniel »

Some people are stupid and too lazy to read, I get people most days coming after me flapping the grey surcharge cards because they think it's a p739 :crazy:
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Post by datasaint »

Caniel wrote:Some people are stupid and too lazy to read, I get people most days coming after me flapping the grey surcharge cards because they think it's a p739 :crazy:
Cue cries that 'you didn't even knock'. Normally you're halfway down the street by the time they come out so have to deadwalk back to explain it to them.
chrisj
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Re: delivering to neighbours

Post by chrisj »

Sidley wrote:
chrisj wrote:I am not sure why a postie will categorically refuse to give a parcel or Signed For upon receipt of a P739 whilst still on the round
The answer is because we have been told by management that under no circumstances do you give mail to anyone in the street, end of. They didn't even trot out their usual bullshit prevarication, you know the one, the phrase that absolves them of any blame while leaving you wide open to all sorts of aggro. "use your common sense"
I have never been told not to give mail out on the street. And I do read quite a lot of RM stuff and I have not heard of such a policy. As long as you can verify that it is the person - you can always ask for ID, why over-complicate things.

DTN has now obviously superseded the idea that you cannot hand mail out on the street. You are effectively given mail and sometimes asking people to sign for things that do not belong to them. The competition is doing so and RM wants us to do the same - you do as you are asked; simples!