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as we all know the doms have recently received a nice bonus up to £3000 end of june,i know there are many decent HONEST doms out there.But there are many for the want of a better word ROGUES out there.suddenly over the last 6 weeks to the present time,delivery staff have been shafted/ripped off big time,some have worked there day off,NOT BEEN PAID some are 10 hours short on wages,some are 8 hour short on wages the list goes on,all these hours have been cut/fiddled so the figures look good and hey presto the dom receives a NICE BIG FAT BONUS.this must be going on in most offices around the UK.its just not good enough it happens far to regular. :no no :no no :no no
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Its an absolute certainty that this has happened..........
Our dom has shafted many people over there overtime. Im still owed 14 hours from a month ago! I know one fella who is owed 41 hours :crazy:
How can the union let this happen, ive asked the rep to sort my owed overtime out but guess what he says he has asked and can do nothing more.

On a side note if I took a grievance out about getting my overtime back would that put my contract renewal in jeopardy as im an ftc
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comeracing wrote:as we all know the doms have recently received a nice bonus up to £3000 end of june,i know there are many decent HONEST doms out there.But there are many for the want of a better word ROGUES out there.suddenly over the last 6 weeks to the present time,delivery staff have been shafted/ripped off big time,some have worked there day off,NOT BEEN PAID some are 10 hours short on wages,some are 8 hour short on wages the list goes on,all these hours have been cut/fiddled so the figures look good and hey presto the dom receives a NICE BIG FAT BONUS.this must be going on in most offices around the UK.its just not good enough it happens far to regular. :no no :no no :no no
The DOM in our office has also tried to defraud folks of their annual leave for which they are owed. Instead of crediting bank holidays and crediting carried over leave, the DOM has in fact attempted to wipe it off :speak to the hand , solely for the purpose of financial gain I should imagine :evil/mad
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jack wrote:
comeracing wrote:as we all know the doms have recently received a nice bonus up to £3000 end of june,i know there are many decent HONEST doms out there.But there are many for the want of a better word ROGUES out there.suddenly over the last 6 weeks to the present time,delivery staff have been shafted/ripped off big time,some have worked there day off,NOT BEEN PAID some are 10 hours short on wages,some are 8 hour short on wages the list goes on,all these hours have been cut/fiddled so the figures look good and hey presto the dom receives a NICE BIG FAT BONUS.this must be going on in most offices around the UK.its just not good enough it happens far to regular. :no no :no no :no no
The DOM in our office has also tried to defraud folks of their annual leave for which they are owed. Instead of crediting bank holidays and crediting carried over leave, the DOM has in fact attempted to wipe it off :speak to the hand , solely for the purpose of financial gain I should imagine :evil/mad

I would make certain that he has failed to credit bank holidays or wiped them off because if they have they may be in a world of hurt if anyone pushed it. Bank Holidays, and Bank Holidays Credit are, I believe, a Statutory entitlement and they cannot just wipe if off, its illegal.
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comeracing wrote:as we all know the doms have recently received a nice bonus up to £3000 end of june,i know there are many decent HONEST doms out there.But there are many for the want of a better word ROGUES out there.suddenly over the last 6 weeks to the present time,delivery staff have been shafted/ripped off big time,some have worked there day off,NOT BEEN PAID some are 10 hours short on wages,some are 8 hour short on wages the list goes on,all these hours have been cut/fiddled so the figures look good and hey presto the dom receives a NICE BIG FAT BONUS.this must be going on in most offices around the UK.its just not good enough it happens far to regular. :no no :no no :no no
£3000 bonus? Delivery staff - - - worked their day off – not paid? Some have worked their day off – not paid? Some are 10 hours short on wages? Is this just speculation or do you have any supporting evidence?

It wasn’t that long ago that you wrote:

Well, Tuesday finished walk at 11:40 including lapsing, beat my previous early finish (been postie 15 months) by 15 minutes. Today finished at 12:20, smashing my Weds. record by 35 minutes. No early start, but took break after delivery. DOM just let us go home afterwards, weren't sent out again. ...
by comeracing
17 Apr 2014, 18:21


You were happy enough then when things were in your favour. :hmmmm
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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
jack wrote:
comeracing wrote:as we all know the doms have recently received a nice bonus up to £3000 end of june,i know there are many decent HONEST doms out there.But there are many for the want of a better word ROGUES out there.suddenly over the last 6 weeks to the present time,delivery staff have been shafted/ripped off big time,some have worked there day off,NOT BEEN PAID some are 10 hours short on wages,some are 8 hour short on wages the list goes on,all these hours have been cut/fiddled so the figures look good and hey presto the dom receives a NICE BIG FAT BONUS.this must be going on in most offices around the UK.its just not good enough it happens far to regular. :no no :no no :no no
The DOM in our office has also tried to defraud folks of their annual leave for which they are owed. Instead of crediting bank holidays and crediting carried over leave, the DOM has in fact attempted to wipe it off :speak to the hand , solely for the purpose of financial gain I should imagine :evil/mad [/quote ]


I would make certain that he has failed to credit bank holidays or wiped them off because if they have they may be in a world of hurt if anyone pushed it. Bank Holidays, and Bank Holidays Credit are, I believe, a Statutory entitlement and they cannot just wipe if off, its illegal


Well when your still in possession of previous annual leave cards (as evidence) I do think it's rather foolish to try and hoodwink someone from something for which they are entitled. As far as the bank holidays are concerned we have to inform the DOM to add them on or they are written off :thumbdown
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If some workers are doing overtime and not getting paid for it then why are they still doing the overtime??? Just grow a pair of b@llocks and tell them you won't be working over your time anymore and you are not able to work your day off. Watch and laugh when DOM struggles to get the office cleared. If they try to bully you into doing it you tell them you'll put in a grievance against them.
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Its not that easy. What about the part times? Many can't snub the overtime. Lucky you to be able to take that stance.
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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
jack wrote:
comeracing wrote:as we all know the doms have recently received a nice bonus up to £3000 end of june,i know there are many decent HONEST doms out there.But there are many for the want of a better word ROGUES out there.suddenly over the last 6 weeks to the present time,delivery staff have been shafted/ripped off big time,some have worked there day off,NOT BEEN PAID some are 10 hours short on wages,some are 8 hour short on wages the list goes on,all these hours have been cut/fiddled so the figures look good and hey presto the dom receives a NICE BIG FAT BONUS.this must be going on in most offices around the UK.its just not good enough it happens far to regular. :no no :no no :no no
The DOM in our office has also tried to defraud folks of their annual leave for which they are owed. Instead of crediting bank holidays and crediting carried over leave, the DOM has in fact attempted to wipe it off :speak to the hand , solely for the purpose of financial gain I should imagine :evil/mad

I would make certain that he has failed to credit bank holidays or wiped them off because if they have they may be in a world of hurt if anyone pushed it. Bank Holidays, and Bank Holidays Credit are, I believe, a Statutory entitlement and they cannot just wipe if off, its illegal.
Many private sector workers (including myself in the past) retail/carers etc work bank holidays for flat rate though?
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Straight4ward wrote:
comeracing wrote:as we all know the doms have recently received a nice bonus up to £3000 end of june,i know there are many decent HONEST doms out there.But there are many for the want of a better word ROGUES out there.suddenly over the last 6 weeks to the present time,delivery staff have been shafted/ripped off big time,some have worked there day off,NOT BEEN PAID some are 10 hours short on wages,some are 8 hour short on wages the list goes on,all these hours have been cut/fiddled so the figures look good and hey presto the dom receives a NICE BIG FAT BONUS.this must be going on in most offices around the UK.its just not good enough it happens far to regular. :no no :no no :no no
£3000 bonus? Delivery staff - - - worked their day off – not paid? Some have worked their day off – not paid? Some are 10 hours short on wages? Is this just speculation or do you have any supporting evidence?

It wasn’t that long ago that you wrote:

Well, Tuesday finished walk at 11:40 including lapsing, beat my previous early finish (been postie 15 months) by 15 minutes. Today finished at 12:20, smashing my Weds. record by 35 minutes. No early start, but took break after delivery. DOM just let us go home afterwards, weren't sent out again. ...
by comeracing
17 Apr 2014, 18:21


You were happy enough then when things were in your favour. :hmmmm
:Applause my thoughts exactly what a load of hearsay rubbish.
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Straight4ward wrote:
comeracing wrote:as we all know the doms have recently received a nice bonus up to £3000 end of june,i know there are many decent HONEST doms out there.But there are many for the want of a better word ROGUES out there.suddenly over the last 6 weeks to the present time,delivery staff have been shafted/ripped off big time,some have worked there day off,NOT BEEN PAID some are 10 hours short on wages,some are 8 hour short on wages the list goes on,all these hours have been cut/fiddled so the figures look good and hey presto the dom receives a NICE BIG FAT BONUS.this must be going on in most offices around the UK.its just not good enough it happens far to regular. :no no :no no :no no
£3000 bonus? Delivery staff - - - worked their day off – not paid? Some have worked their day off – not paid? Some are 10 hours short on wages? Is this just speculation or do you have any supporting evidence?

It wasn’t that long ago that you wrote:

Well, Tuesday finished walk at 11:40 including lapsing, beat my previous early finish (been postie 15 months) by 15 minutes. Today finished at 12:20, smashing my Weds. record by 35 minutes. No early start, but took break after delivery. DOM just let us go home afterwards, weren't sent out again. ...
by comeracing
17 Apr 2014, 18:21


You were happy enough then when things were in your favour. :hmmmm
straight4ward,get your facts right that was not me,anyway are you a dom,all these people have shown each other there wages and are going ape about this unfair treatment
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comeracing wrote:
Straight4ward wrote:
comeracing wrote:as we all know the doms have recently received a nice bonus up to £3000 end of june,i know there are many decent HONEST doms out there.But there are many for the want of a better word ROGUES out there.suddenly over the last 6 weeks to the present time,delivery staff have been shafted/ripped off big time,some have worked there day off,NOT BEEN PAID some are 10 hours short on wages,some are 8 hour short on wages the list goes on,all these hours have been cut/fiddled so the figures look good and hey presto the dom receives a NICE BIG FAT BONUS.this must be going on in most offices around the UK.its just not good enough it happens far to regular. :no no :no no :no no
£3000 bonus? Delivery staff - - - worked their day off – not paid? Some have worked their day off – not paid? Some are 10 hours short on wages? Is this just speculation or do you have any supporting evidence?

It wasn’t that long ago that you wrote:

Well, Tuesday finished walk at 11:40 including lapsing, beat my previous early finish (been postie 15 months) by 15 minutes. Today finished at 12:20, smashing my Weds. record by 35 minutes. No early start, but took break after delivery. DOM just let us go home afterwards, weren't sent out again. ...
by comeracing
17 Apr 2014, 18:21


You were happy enough then when things were in your favour. :hmmmm
straight4ward,get your facts right that was not me,anyway are you a dom,all these people have shown each other there wages and are going ape about this unfair treatment
straight4ward ive been a postie over 15 years,not 15 months get your stupid facts right :arrrghhh :arrrghhh :arrrghhh
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1. You cant ask people if they are a DOM on here. :no no

Maybe my office is different but I ve not noticed any change in the way OT has been paid. My DOM looks about as feed up as normal. :left:
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Jpro747 wrote:If some workers are doing overtime and not getting paid for it then why are they still doing the overtime??? Just grow a pair of b@llocks and tell them you won't be working over your time anymore and you are not able to work your day off. Watch and laugh when DOM struggles to get the office cleared. If they try to bully you into doing it you tell them you'll put in a grievance against them.
Id love to be in a position where I can turn down overtime, unfortunately having a 24 hour contract doesn't allow this so it would make no difference how big my b@llocks where!!
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Rory wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
jack wrote:
comeracing wrote:as we all know the doms have recently received a nice bonus up to £3000 end of june,i know there are many decent HONEST doms out there.But there are many for the want of a better word ROGUES out there.suddenly over the last 6 weeks to the present time,delivery staff have been shafted/ripped off big time,some have worked there day off,NOT BEEN PAID some are 10 hours short on wages,some are 8 hour short on wages the list goes on,all these hours have been cut/fiddled so the figures look good and hey presto the dom receives a NICE BIG FAT BONUS.this must be going on in most offices around the UK.its just not good enough it happens far to regular. :no no :no no :no no
The DOM in our office has also tried to defraud folks of their annual leave for which they are owed. Instead of crediting bank holidays and crediting carried over leave, the DOM has in fact attempted to wipe it off :speak to the hand , solely for the purpose of financial gain I should imagine :evil/mad

I would make certain that he has failed to credit bank holidays or wiped them off because if they have they may be in a world of hurt if anyone pushed it. Bank Holidays, and Bank Holidays Credit are, I believe, a Statutory entitlement and they cannot just wipe if off, its illegal.
Many private sector workers (including myself in the past) retail/carers etc work bank holidays for flat rate though?
That's fine, but the Bank Holiday is a statutory right, and if its your day off on the actual Bank Holiday then there is a statutory right to use it later (ignoring the complexities of those that have 6 weeks a year as opposed to the 5.6 (including BHs) that is the minimum requirement for a FT worker (by days not hours)
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