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Compulsory Lapsing

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Mr Rush
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Compulsory Lapsing

Post by Mr Rush »

Summer lapsing returned at the start of June. I have no problems working all my hours as the company wants and on days when it would take my partner and I over our contracted hours it was raised with management and the lapsing has been taken off us. As of last Thursday management refused to take back lapsing claiming it was now local agreement that we must lapse.

At WTLL today the DOM clarified the following:
[*]BT2010 contains text stating we must expect to work over our time occasionally (same old line about contracts pre-2010)
[*]We took the money for modernisation which was in exchange for enabling flexing (any old definition will do)
[*]As beneficiaries of the new local agreement to create additional holiday slots we must lapse to free up duties (OT will not be paid)
[*]As we are allegedly under our time on Tuesdays, banking of hours also means that OT incurred by lapsing on other days will not be paid

Not much of :nana going on in the office right now.

Flexing, as I understand, is a tool available to solve staffing problems in exceptional circumstances with the consent of the employee and to be compensated within the week of use. He defined it as 30 minutes on top of your hours in which OT cannot be claimed since the lapsing will be around 20 minutes additional workload.

I can't believe the union rep has signed away members' and non-members' right to work their contracted hours and allowed them to be pressed into working for free. There are plenty of colleagues who will now either choose to face the conduct code or deliver walk + lapsing in an unsafe manner in order to pick up their children from school. I have a feeling few will chance reinstatement via employment tribunal.

Does local agreement trump everything including the law? :shock: Advice is greatly appreciated.
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siddy
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Re: Compulsory Lapsing

Post by siddy »

this is the national agreement there is no local agreement on lapsing.attached.
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Mr Rush
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Re: Compulsory Lapsing

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Thanks, this looks like the document that's being distorted.
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Lincox
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Re: Compulsory Lapsing

Post by Lincox »

I would ask your union rep whether he is involved in a weekly resourcing meeting to align workload to staffing numbers, and whether he has been involved in any daily meetings where there has been an unusual amount of workload. If not do as our rep has done and put in a Stage 1 disagreement on the basis that the manager refuses to discuss resourcing with him and therefore until an agreeable solution has been reached under stage 2 of the IR procedures, the status quo remains in place.
Mr Rush
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Re: Compulsory Lapsing

Post by Mr Rush »

Yep, looks like branch is on top of this and a disagreement has gone in. Dom's been trying it on with his fantastical interpretations of various agreements :no no
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Lincox
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Re: Compulsory Lapsing

Post by Lincox »

So it appears that Moya Greene and her band of merry men and women are still unable to control lower management grades, unless what is more likely this is all being manipulated from above.
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Re: Compulsory Lapsing

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Work your hours take your breaks tell them you are not going over banking of hours what a w****r tell him to f**k himself!
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Re: Compulsory Lapsing

Post by Ahebban »

B.A.U. :cuppa
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