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Part-timer holiday pay

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douggie68
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Part-timer holiday pay

Post by douggie68 »

Legally if a part time worker is averaging 42 hours a week for two years ( contacted for 25 ) are they entitled to increased holiday pay ? I know under this & previous agreements their contract should be reviewed every six month ,but we are going to go to disagreement about that .
rehabron
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Re: Part-timer holiday pay

Post by rehabron »

Your holiday pay will be assessed on your contracted hours.
shepherdess
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Re: Part-timer holiday pay

Post by shepherdess »

your holiday pay is on your contracted hours, but if you have been doing a lot more why havent you been made full time, the evidence is there
Speedmeister
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Re: Part-timer holiday pay

Post by Speedmeister »

I'm in a similar position - I'm on a 30 hour contract and have been doing at least 39 hours for 6 months. I know it saves them money when I'm on leave & was thinking it fudges the figures on the number of hours is done in one office.
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steve1873
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Re: Part-timer holiday pay

Post by steve1873 »

This is straight from the gov.uk site... https://www.gov.uk/holiday-entitlement- ... the-basics

I would say you would have a decent argument for being paid a full-time holiday pay since you worked over full-time hours on the previous 12 weeks. The only problem is, our contracts are fixed hours and not shift work, so that may be their counter argument.
IloveMYredTROLLEY!
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Re: Part-timer holiday pay

Post by IloveMYredTROLLEY! »

After six months of working hours consistently beyond the next step in contract hours, you should be getting a new written contract which will then give you improved annual leave/sickness pay.
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Re: Part-timer holiday pay

Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

steve1873 wrote:This is straight from the gov.uk site... https://www.gov.uk/holiday-entitlement- ... the-basics

I would say you would have a decent argument for being paid a full-time holiday pay since you worked over full-time hours on the previous 12 weeks. The only problem is, our contracts are fixed hours and not shift work, so that may be their counter argument.

from that link

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steve1873
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Re: Part-timer holiday pay

Post by steve1873 »

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
steve1873 wrote:This is straight from the gov.uk site... https://www.gov.uk/holiday-entitlement- ... the-basics

I would say you would have a decent argument for being paid a full-time holiday pay since you worked over full-time hours on the previous 12 weeks. The only problem is, our contracts are fixed hours and not shift work, so that may be their counter argument.

from that link

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A week’s holiday pay equals how much a worker gets for a week’s work (excluding non-guaranteed overtime payments in most cases)
This is why I said an argument could possibly be made. It does say "in most cases". Where it could be argued, I presume, is if say you were asked to work full-time hours on a week-to-week basis during that 12 week period. i.e. on the Saturday, line manager asks you if you are able to work full-time hours next week, then on the following saturday... etc.. etc...

If that were the case though, would the OPG in question be entitled to SA for those overtime hours?
Dorset Plodder
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Re: Part-timer holiday pay

Post by Dorset Plodder »

Good Luck in your quest for FAIR Holiday Pay Lads. :pray I've often heard the "Average of the 12 Previous weeks argument being bandied about" and I believe one of our guys successfully argued his case. TBH over the years it's taken me enough time,and effort, to chase the overtime I've been owed (on a consistently regular basis). If had to start retrospectecly chasing holiday pay I think I'd lose the will to live. :arrrghhh

It's just one of those stressful stupid things that you sometimes have to take on the chin....I know you shouldn't have to but RM really love shafting their employees over this dodgy holiday pay deal. Saves them MILLIONS! :no no
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Speedmeister
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Re: Part-timer holiday pay

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I quite often do docket & usually most of it is ghosting - I know it's not right but I just think if this company is going to shaft me I might as well do it back. :thumbup
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Re: Part-timer holiday pay

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