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Management Responsibility
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k979aaa
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Management Responsibility
Why do I need to say this you may well ask I will tell you all they don't take the responsibility only try to put it on you for they have no staff to do the work? And if you cannot complete it is a performance issue or you are taking the piss! Well I have news for them and you all ROYALMAIL are squeezing us all the time has come when we all say NO too this so called agreement that was a sham sold by the top of the CWU I don't see this agreement stopping the abuse of the passed it has waved the white flag rather than stopped bulling and harassment of CWU members! Why was this whole B&H problem was not at the forefront of so called agreement which was endorsed by the CWU HQ and it's Committee and recommended too it's members it is more than a shame it is a damm disgrace that the whole campaign was fought for this yet this problem is still going on to this day!
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5plusbonusball
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- Location: up north of watford
Re: Management Responsibility
Hint :try writing it with "word" then spell check it then copy and paste it here!
And by the way, did you actually expect the job and company to get better?
And by the way, did you actually expect the job and company to get better?
Why are lino's paid full-time ??
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chickenwittle
- Posts: 2094
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Re: Management Responsibility
the job is a joke now ,managers pushing for more and more and before someone comes on says just work your contracted hours , i do. We have some older posties in my office that come in early ,use cars and dont take a break, they lapse every day and sill finish way past their time and never claim ot.They do this because they are made to feel they have to, the manager knows whats happening and the union know whats happening , its a disgrace and this agreement has changed nothing. Its a situation where everyone has to fight their own corner as to not get mugged off, this is wrong as everyone is different and some dont want the confrontation that they face on a daily basis.
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k979aaa
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Re: Management Responsibility
Why is this still going on as the CWU said it would stop it! In my experience has got worse in the last four months.chickenwittle wrote:the job is a joke now ,managers pushing for more and more and before someone comes on says just work your contracted hours , i do. We have some older posties in my office that come in early ,use cars and dont take a break, they lapse every day and sill finish way past their time and never claim ot.They do this because they are made to feel they have to, the manager knows whats happening and the union know whats happening , its a disgrace and this agreement has changed nothing. Its a situation where everyone has to fight their own corner as to not get mugged off, this is wrong as everyone is different and some dont want the confrontation that they face on a daily basis.
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aiden01
- MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
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- Joined: 27 Feb 2013, 21:43
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Re: Management Responsibility
agree mate I work in an mc thought last deal was good how wrong I was every,ones gettn hammered del, and mc,s will never vote yes again. sometimes I wonder what is the point of paying dues.chickenwittle wrote:the job is a joke now ,managers pushing for more and more and before someone comes on says just work your contracted hours , i do. We have some older posties in my office that come in early ,use cars and dont take a break, they lapse every day and sill finish way past their time and never claim ot.They do this because they are made to feel they have to, the manager knows whats happening and the union know whats happening , its a disgrace and this agreement has changed nothing. Its a situation where everyone has to fight their own corner as to not get mugged off, this is wrong as everyone is different and some dont want the confrontation that they face on a daily basis.
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k979aaa
- Posts: 12578
- Joined: 03 Sep 2007, 19:14
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- Location: THE NORTH
Re: Management Responsibility
Don't have time as I work for a living.5plusbonusball wrote:Hint :try writing it with "word" then spell check it then copy and paste it here!
And by the way, did you actually expect the job and company to get better?
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k979aaa
- Posts: 12578
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Re: Management Responsibility
I will keep pay my dues but may look at influencing our branch for what good it will do first!aiden01 wrote:agree mate I work in an mc thought last deal was good how wrong I was every,ones gettn hammered del, and mc,s will never vote yes again. sometimes I wonder what is the point of paying dues.chickenwittle wrote:the job is a joke now ,managers pushing for more and more and before someone comes on says just work your contracted hours , i do. We have some older posties in my office that come in early ,use cars and dont take a break, they lapse every day and sill finish way past their time and never claim ot.They do this because they are made to feel they have to, the manager knows whats happening and the union know whats happening , its a disgrace and this agreement has changed nothing. Its a situation where everyone has to fight their own corner as to not get mugged off, this is wrong as everyone is different and some dont want the confrontation that they face on a daily basis.
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aiden01
- MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
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Re: Management Responsibility
hope your branch listens ours don't give a toss.k979aaa wrote:I will keep pay my dues but may look at influencing our branch for what good it will do first!aiden01 wrote:agree mate I work in an mc thought last deal was good how wrong I was every,ones gettn hammered del, and mc,s will never vote yes again. sometimes I wonder what is the point of paying dues.chickenwittle wrote:the job is a joke now ,managers pushing for more and more and before someone comes on says just work your contracted hours , i do. We have some older posties in my office that come in early ,use cars and dont take a break, they lapse every day and sill finish way past their time and never claim ot.They do this because they are made to feel they have to, the manager knows whats happening and the union know whats happening , its a disgrace and this agreement has changed nothing. Its a situation where everyone has to fight their own corner as to not get mugged off, this is wrong as everyone is different and some dont want the confrontation that they face on a daily basis.
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gand
- Posts: 253
- Joined: 10 Aug 2011, 17:36
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Re: Management Responsibility
And what makes it even worse now is that the cwu are on the side of management now and believe anything royal mail manager's tell them over their own members!chickenwittle wrote:the job is a joke now ,managers pushing for more and more and before someone comes on says just work your contracted hours , i do. We have some older posties in my office that come in early ,use cars and dont take a break, they lapse every day and sill finish way past their time and never claim ot.They do this because they are made to feel they have to, the manager knows whats happening and the union know whats happening , its a disgrace and this agreement has changed nothing. Its a situation where everyone has to fight their own corner as to not get mugged off, this is wrong as everyone is different and some dont want the confrontation that they face on a daily basis.
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chickenwittle
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Re: Management Responsibility
The union are in bed with royal mail now and thats a fact.When our area rep came down to try and push through our revision , he said the likes of tnt are the enemy now and not royal mail and that we all have to pull together.Well that kind of talk must be music to managements ears, hence more lapsing and a must do more culture than ever before.gand wrote:And what makes it even worse now is that the cwu are on the side of management now and believe anything royal mail manager's tell them over their own members!chickenwittle wrote:the job is a joke now ,managers pushing for more and more and before someone comes on says just work your contracted hours , i do. We have some older posties in my office that come in early ,use cars and dont take a break, they lapse every day and sill finish way past their time and never claim ot.They do this because they are made to feel they have to, the manager knows whats happening and the union know whats happening , its a disgrace and this agreement has changed nothing. Its a situation where everyone has to fight their own corner as to not get mugged off, this is wrong as everyone is different and some dont want the confrontation that they face on a daily basis.
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krussel
- Posts: 5300
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Re: Management Responsibility
chickenwittle wrote:The union are in bed with royal mail now and thats a fact.When our area rep came down to try and push through our revision , he said the likes of tnt are the enemy now and not royal mail and that we all have to pull together.Well that kind of talk must be music to managements ears, hence more lapsing and a must do more culture than ever before.gand wrote:And what makes it even worse now is that the cwu are on the side of management now and believe anything royal mail manager's tell them over their own members!chickenwittle wrote:the job is a joke now ,managers pushing for more and more and before someone comes on says just work your contracted hours , i do. We have some older posties in my office that come in early ,use cars and dont take a break, they lapse every day and sill finish way past their time and never claim ot.They do this because they are made to feel they have to, the manager knows whats happening and the union know whats happening , its a disgrace and this agreement has changed nothing. Its a situation where everyone has to fight their own corner as to not get mugged off, this is wrong as everyone is different and some dont want the confrontation that they face on a daily basis.
The IR framework has changed from the days of old. Management and the CWU have to try to work things out before going straight for a disagreement.
Rows of houses all bearing down on me........I can feel their blue hands touching me.......All these things in all positions.........All these things will one day take control..........
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gand
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Re: Management Responsibility
And there lies the problem the cwu are now just doing what royal mail tell them to do my rep just agrees with everything they tell him, management now see the cwu as another tool they can use against staff to get what they want! More and more staff are now being made to work over their time and if they try to claim or cut off management now no that their own union cannot help them.krussel wrote:chickenwittle wrote:The union are in bed with royal mail now and thats a fact.When our area rep came down to try and push through our revision , he said the likes of tnt are the enemy now and not royal mail and that we all have to pull together.Well that kind of talk must be music to managements ears, hence more lapsing and a must do more culture than ever before.gand wrote:And what makes it even worse now is that the cwu are on the side of management now and believe anything royal mail manager's tell them over their own members!chickenwittle wrote:the job is a joke now ,managers pushing for more and more and before someone comes on says just work your contracted hours , i do. We have some older posties in my office that come in early ,use cars and dont take a break, they lapse every day and sill finish way past their time and never claim ot.They do this because they are made to feel they have to, the manager knows whats happening and the union know whats happening , its a disgrace and this agreement has changed nothing. Its a situation where everyone has to fight their own corner as to not get mugged off, this is wrong as everyone is different and some dont want the confrontation that they face on a daily basis.
The IR framework has changed from the days of old. Management and the CWU have to try to work things out before going straight for a disagreement.
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Budfrog
- Posts: 893
- Joined: 11 Sep 2007, 02:19
Re: Management Responsibility
I understood every word and he echoes what most delivery postmen are thinking now.5plusbonusball wrote:Hint :try writing it with "word" then spell check it then copy and paste it here!
And by the way, did you actually expect the job and company to get better?
Be interested to see if the consultant mediators brought in by RM have any impact at all or if it is just a case of 'He Who Plays the Piper ..... ', I suspect the latter as only a few months ago Moya refused to acknowledge that a B&H issue existed.
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5plusbonusball
- Posts: 1136
- Joined: 12 Jan 2012, 20:50
- Gender: Male
- Location: up north of watford
Re: Management Responsibility
I think we all need to be taught about TRAFFIC FIGURES - what they mean, what a certain office's is , they must be COMMUNICATED to all staff daily . Too much secrecy is going on.
Why are lino's paid full-time ??
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arnold cheshire
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Re: Management Responsibility
traffic figures can be different on one walk from the next ignore them5plusbonusball wrote:I think we all need to be taught about TRAFFIC FIGURES - what they mean, what a certain office's is , they must be COMMUNICATED to all staff daily . Too much secrecy is going on.