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Work Time Learning duration
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Chimps_tea_party
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Work Time Learning duration
Hi
If a WTL session lasts less than 30 minutes, are we officially entitled to stay off the floor for the remaining time?
Even our Rep is vague about this.
Thanks
If a WTL session lasts less than 30 minutes, are we officially entitled to stay off the floor for the remaining time?
Even our Rep is vague about this.
Thanks
Retired ex- Royal Mail.
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IcanthelpthewayIam
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Re: Work Time Learning duration
Chimps_tea_party wrote:Hi
If a WTL session lasts less than 30 minutes, are we officially entitled to stay off the floor for the remaining time?
Even our Rep is vague about this.
Thanks
No, your 318 includes the wording of "as directed" or words to that effect, if you are regularly getting less than the 30 minutes get the rep to raise a disagreement, if its only very occasionally lasting less than 30 minutes due to not enough content not much you can really complain about
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thehappyones
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Re: Work Time Learning duration
pretty sure its up to 30 mins
The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory.
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holly123
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Re: Work Time Learning duration
WE NEVER GET TO HAVE WTL, IS IT A MUST
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Straight4ward
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Re: Work Time Learning duration
You want them to last 30 minutes?
What can I say? I admire your erm - dedication. Very commendable.
What can I say? I admire your erm - dedication. Very commendable.
"Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway."
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AnotherLimey
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Re: Work Time Learning duration
You want them to last less than 30 mins so you can absorb? Very commendable alsoStraight4ward wrote:You want them to last 30 minutes?![]()
What can I say? I admire your erm - dedication. Very commendable.
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Straight4ward
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Re: Work Time Learning duration
What's "absorbing" ? 
"Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway."
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postypie
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Re: Work Time Learning duration
Many of our staff have their meal break while at these WTL sessions....scoffing and watching RM videos at the same time...sheer bliss!!
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5plusbonusball
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Re: Work Time Learning duration
like zorbing ?Straight4ward wrote:What's "absorbing" ?

Why are lino's paid full-time ??
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Dorset Plodder
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Re: Work Time Learning duration
I was always led to believe that a WTL session was required for Managers to Tick one of the boxes on their Bonus Requirements?
As mentioned if you're not sitting in a WTL session then you've got more time to Deliver/Lapse. As for the WTL finishing early....there always seems someone needing to discuss some problem or other.....which seems to drag on because he can't get any clarification on the matter.
The usual "Runners" & "Corner Cutters" are normally champing at the bit to be out of the door and back to their frames. However I often find some useful points can be put across during these sessions, and they're one of the few times MOST Posties are in one room and can get a true indication of the general consensus. Too often Managers Divide and Rule with the old, "Well everyone else thinks it's a good idea" routine. I know many Offices won't allow the Union Rep to hold meetings in Business Time/Premises so it's the chance for a get together. A major concern is that these WTL sessions normally occur early, BEFORE many Part-Time Posties clock on. Could this be the reason so many decisions appear to be made in favour of a few vocal Full Timers to the detriment of many Part Timers?
As mentioned if you're not sitting in a WTL session then you've got more time to Deliver/Lapse. As for the WTL finishing early....there always seems someone needing to discuss some problem or other.....which seems to drag on because he can't get any clarification on the matter.
The usual "Runners" & "Corner Cutters" are normally champing at the bit to be out of the door and back to their frames. However I often find some useful points can be put across during these sessions, and they're one of the few times MOST Posties are in one room and can get a true indication of the general consensus. Too often Managers Divide and Rule with the old, "Well everyone else thinks it's a good idea" routine. I know many Offices won't allow the Union Rep to hold meetings in Business Time/Premises so it's the chance for a get together. A major concern is that these WTL sessions normally occur early, BEFORE many Part-Time Posties clock on. Could this be the reason so many decisions appear to be made in favour of a few vocal Full Timers to the detriment of many Part Timers?
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DavidFS
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Re: Work Time Learning duration
Dorset Plodder wrote:I was always led to believe that a WTL session was required for Managers to Tick one of the boxes on their Bonus Requirements?
As mentioned if you're not sitting in a WTL session then you've got more time to Deliver/Lapse. As for the WTL finishing early....there always seems someone needing to discuss some problem or other.....which seems to drag on because he can't get any clarification on the matter.
The usual "Runners" & "Corner Cutters" are normally champing at the bit to be out of the door and back to their frames. However I often find some useful points can be put across during these sessions, and they're one of the few times MOST Posties are in one room and can get a true indication of the general consensus. Too often Managers Divide and Rule with the old, "Well everyone else thinks it's a good idea" routine. I know many Offices won't allow the Union Rep to hold meetings in Business Time/Premises so it the chance for a get together. A major concern is that these WTL sessions normally occur early, BEFORE many Part-Time Posties clock on. Could this be the reason so many decisions appear to be made in favour of a few vocal Full Timers to the detriment of many Part Timers?
Is that what those meetings are. As a part-timer never been told about or invited to one. Suppose that proves you're point completely.
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Dorset Plodder
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Re: Work Time Learning duration
Is that what those meetings are. As a part-timer never been told about or invited to one. Suppose that proves you're point completely.
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So when the Manager tells you "1) Everyone's agreed on a fixed day off......yours is Tuesday 2) We've cut your overtime because we've had to put more indoor hours onto some Full Time duties 3) Some people have to come in later.....So You can start at 0900 4) I've put the leave rosta up you can have any of the weeks that are left....in October"!
You now know where those decisions were made Dave!
Plus you're dipping out on a half hour tea break 
So when the Manager tells you "1) Everyone's agreed on a fixed day off......yours is Tuesday 2) We've cut your overtime because we've had to put more indoor hours onto some Full Time duties 3) Some people have to come in later.....So You can start at 0900 4) I've put the leave rosta up you can have any of the weeks that are left....in October"!
You now know where those decisions were made Dave!
Like all Wage Slaves, he had two crosses to bear: The people he worked for and the people he worked with! (Stephen Vizinczey.)
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NewPostieUK
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Re: Work Time Learning duration
Same here. I went into the office early once (to use the toilet) and was told to report to the meeting. OK I say, as soon as I start. What do you mean? Well, I don't start for 35 mins, I'm just popping to the loo if it's OK with you.DavidFS wrote:
Is that what those meetings are. As a part-timer never been told about or invited to one. Suppose that proves you're point completely.
I can only assume that the matters dealt with don't concern me, as the manager obviously knows my start time. He could have the meeting later, but a load of full timers would miss out, as they have left the building.
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Chimps_tea_party
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Re: Work Time Learning duration
Erm - we used to get 30 mins off the floor/ sit down time.Straight4ward wrote:You want them to last 30 minutes?![]()
What can I say? I admire your erm - dedication. Very commendable.
Retired ex- Royal Mail.
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Sidley
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Re: Work Time Learning duration
Honestly can't remember the last Work Time Lying session we had. I reckon we get about 2 a year that happen before us part-timers start work