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Stealing overtime..

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Chelseablue
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Stealing overtime..

Post by Chelseablue »

First easyish day today in a while , we were told as we were finished early today that any overtime this week would be taken from us . Can they do this week in week out as staff are noticing a lot of overtime missing from there pay each week too. .? Say someone worked there day off and finished early one day wouLd they touch there day off overtime.? Anyone shed light on this stuff..?
janitor
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Re: Stealing overtime..

Post by janitor »

There is no agreement on banking of hours, if your manager could not find you other work to do to complete your hours, then that is his problem, if he touches your overtime put in a grievance.The fact he has been inept enough to not find you other work should not impact on overtime you have already worked. Get him to show you the agreement that says he can do this.
mickeymacca
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Re: Stealing overtime..

Post by mickeymacca »

If they start going down that road, then overtime will be a thing of the past as far as I am concerned....
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IcanthelpthewayIam
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Re: Stealing overtime..

Post by IcanthelpthewayIam »

get your rep to ask the dom to put his new policy in writing, once he has done that go as high up the totem pole as needed to get it stopped
coxie
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Re: Stealing overtime..

Post by coxie »

That's illegal altering your overtime
Chitchat
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Re: Stealing overtime..

Post by Chitchat »

So what happens to the people that didn't do any overtime? They get away without losing money. Unfair idea, the manager should give you enough work to fill your day.
Lincox
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Re: Stealing overtime..

Post by Lincox »

Email him and tell him that if the overtime is not in this weeks pay, you will be filing a claim against him in the Small Claims Court. Don,t think you will have any problem.
new2me
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Re: Stealing overtime..

Post by new2me »

janitor wrote: if he touches your overtime put in a grievance
What is this grievance thing?
Altrider
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Re: Stealing overtime..

Post by Altrider »

If O/T was agreed then not a lot he can do. Legally DIM is on dodgy ground. ('Course different if is was his annual performance bonus though :no no .)
Dalelad
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Re: Stealing overtime..

Post by Dalelad »

Deleted, again! I thought this forum was anonymous. The way I understood it was you get paid x amount to do x amount of OT. Some postmen are fast and some are slow. It might take one postman 2 hours to do half a walk and another only an hour. At the end of the day, you are being paid to do a job. Aslong as it is done correctly, whats the problem with doing it quicker?
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krussel
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Re: Stealing overtime..

Post by krussel »

new2me wrote:
janitor wrote: if he touches your overtime put in a grievance
What is this grievance thing?

If you feel that you are being treated un fairly or a Manager is not following a agreement your get you rep to write a letter of grievance outlining the issues.

This gives the manager time to reflect on the decision. If nothing changes you then follow the set IR frame work (which has just changed) in solving the matter through various stages..
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Sergeant Blast
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Re: Stealing overtime..

Post by Sergeant Blast »

It's theft, stealing, dishonest, wicksing, filching, larceny, robbery and fraudulent....just normal pastimes for a typical DOM.
buchanpeter
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Re: Stealing overtime..

Post by buchanpeter »

Same thing happens in my office.
we are told that if ur early 1 day and late another it balances out throughout the week
They say u've gotta work ur 39 hours a week...even if it means moving 1-2 hours from 1 day to another...
Also if it gets brought up more than once management just say its part of a local agreement in the office O_o;;
Bert66
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Re: Stealing overtime..

Post by Bert66 »

buchanpeter wrote:Same thing happens in my office.
we are told that if ur early 1 day and late another it balances out throughout the week
They say u've gotta work ur 39 hours a week...even if it means moving 1-2 hours from 1 day to another...
Also if it gets brought up more than once management just say its part of a local agreement in the office O_o;;
If there is a "local agreement" then surely your rep would have a copy of this.
Budfrog
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Re: Stealing overtime..

Post by Budfrog »

Once overtime has been authorised (and this can be in the form of a verbal agreement) it cannot be legally withdrawn without the consent of both parties.

If the OT does not appear on your wageslip report it immediately to your CWU Rep by eMail if possible to give yourself an audit trail and copy in the DOM, DSM and local HR lead.